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mv Wrote:From ArabNews:

Quote:LONDON, 15 July 2005 — British police have warned that a second terrorist attack on London is even more likely, following the uncovering of a massive explosives factory in a safe house in Leeds. Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair gave the somber warning to Londoners yesterday and stressed that “there are lots more secret Al-Qaeda terrorist cells operating within the UK.”
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I think the Brits are slowly beginning to see just what a bag of deadly snakes they have in their midst. And note that the majority of their Moslim imports are from Pakistan. And guess where the greatest threat in the Middle East resides?

If you say Pakistan, YOU WIN!! And they have nukes too!!
John L Wrote:I think the Brits are slowly beginning to see just what a bag of deadly snakes they have in their midst.
I still don't share your optimism. I hadn't noticed changes.
bh Wrote:[quote="John L"
I think the Brits are slowly beginning to see just what a bag of deadly snakes they have in their midst.
I still don't share your optimism. I hadn't noticed changes.[/quote]

The reason why you haven't notices such changes is because it is "slowly" beginning to dawn on them. It will pick up with time.
John L Wrote:The reason why you haven't notices such changes is because it is "slowly" beginning to dawn on them. It will pick up with time.

I hope, but when I read british media... :?
Honestly I don't know what can they do now. They let islam in... They are tolerant, but tolerance= weakness for muslim. What can they do, even if they will understand dangerous?
Bh, actually what they did was let Pakistani in, who happen to be Muslims. Note that pakistan is a part of the British Commonwealth, so it is easier for them, Indians, and certain Africans to get into the Mother country.

Once England starts to clean up it's Pakistani problem, much of it's terrorist problems will clear up.

As for Europe, their Islamic problem is from other countries, and thus more complex in nature.
Quote:As for Europe, their Islamic problem is from other countries, and thus more complex in nature.
As for Europe... and as for Britain. IMHO using of Paki is fortuity. They could use any other muslims.
BTW, I watched report about Crimean tatars on TV. Every second mosque is controlled by Wahhabi, weapons including grenade cup discharge, aggressive groups of muslims on the streets... It's the beginning of war, new seat of the same war.
I think that you are also hitting the nail on the head. This money spent on Wahhabi mosques is a real danger. They don't even have any redeaming architectural value, as that of the Turk mosques.

Unless the Wahhabis are politely moved out, the hatred will continue to grow.
Saudi oilfields ought to be occupied by all non wahabbi Muslim states on earth and proceeds distributed out to them.


That way,no infidel involvement,remove the main reason wahab is a problem,huge sums of cash.
Quote:This money spent on Wahhabi mosques is a real danger
John, islam came to Crimea as a traditional islam. Later traditional mullahs were replaced by agressive wahhabi. In fact the same was in Europe. It's world-wide process.
I don't know if Wahhabi is the only aggressive sort of islam. But I know for sure - successful educated muslims who were perfect neighbor sooner or later can became shahids like it was in London.
bh Wrote:
Quote:This money spent on Wahhabi mosques is a real danger
John, islam came to Crimea as a traditional islam. Later traditional mullahs were replaced by agressive wahhabi. In fact the same was in Europe. It's world-wide process.
I don't know if Wahhabi is the only aggressive sort of islam. But I know for sure - successful educated muslims who were perfect neighbor sooner or later can became shahids like it was in London.

I agree! Until Islam is willing and able to eradicate this hateful form of it's religion, it will never be able to merge into the mainstream of the world globalization process. Once it's oil revenues run out, it will not have it's revenues source either.
John L Wrote:Once it's oil revenues run out, it will not have it's revenues source either.
John I have read "Time to Hit The Suicide Factories" and I'm disagree. What's the cost of London terrorist act? 100$, 1000$, 10000$, 100000$? I don't know, but 4 idiots plus about 10 (not more) of helpers plus 16kg of explosive. IMHO 100000$ would be more than enough. Could muslims collect this money without oil revenue? IMHO yes! It does not mean their money aren't from oil revenues and we must watch process of financing indifferently, but we must understand - it will not stop muslims.
Quote:What's the cost of London terrorist act?

Just the overtime pay to the police will be millions.

As for oil dependancy: if it is eliminated, the entire Muslim world can be locked out. No weapons, no food, no antibiotics. Population reduction will breed less agressive Muslims within a few hundred years.
A few hundred years? Are we allowing our pessimissm to rear it's ugly head here? Wink1 S6
I disagree with what you just said, John L: "Until Islam is willing and able to eradicate this hateful form of it's religion, it will never be able to merge into the mainstream of the world globalization process."

I don't think it will ever be able to merge into anything other than its own world domination. There are major religions all over the world. Islam is different because it does not recognize anything except itself. According to the Koran, there have been 128 prophets, including Moses and Jesus. Mohammad was the last and dismisses anything but himself and his writings as the final word that must be obeyed at all cost, in religion, education, business, and government.

This goes beyond religion into politics. until all other governments realize this, it will continue to cause pure hell as it goes about its expressed goal of conquering all mankind.
WmLambert Wrote:I don't think it will ever be able to merge into anything other than its own world domination. There are major religions all over the world. Islam is different because it does not recognize anything except itself. According to the Koran, there have been 128 prophets, including Moses and Jesus. Mohammad was the last and dismisses anything but himself and his writings as the final word that must be obeyed at all cost, in religion, education, business, and government.

This goes beyond religion into politics. until all other governments realize this, it will continue to cause pure hell as it goes about its expressed goal of conquering all mankind.

I agree. The Moslems didn't really have a problem with the Jews, or Christians under their rule, as long as it was under their rule. When Israel became a nation, they got into an uproar -- they didn't control that part of the Middle East anymore -- and they (Hamas, Hezzbollah, etc) are now fighting to regain the control they lost there.

In various history textbooks, we hear how Islam is so great and tolerant to the peoples under its rule. Thats just it, they are UNDER THEIR RULE. No one seems to pick that out though. If it was the other way around, the Moslems would be belligerant, and in a rage against whomever upset that.

This attitude is reflected in so many other instances around various parts of the globe, that gives sturdy backing to the fact they are bent on ruling, and being in control of things.
mv Wrote:
Quote:What's the cost of London terrorist act?

Just the overtime pay to the police will be millions.

MV, you misunderstand me. I mean cost for terrorists. 10 idiots amateurs could do it on their money.
mv Wrote:As for oil dependancy: if it is eliminated, the entire Muslim world can be locked out. No weapons, no food, no antibiotics. Population reduction will breed less agressive Muslims within a few hundred years.
You forget: act in London was not done by wild aborigine from oil fields. It was done by educated successful members of West society, they don't depend on oil.
John L Wrote:A few hundred years? Are we allowing our pessimissm to rear it's ugly head here? Wink1 S6

No pessimism, just realism.

Creating a new breed takes 20+ generations, and unlike vampire bats, muslims do not get sexually mature in 18 months. Now, do your math.
mv Wrote:Creating a new breed takes 20+ generations, and unlike vampire bats, muslims do not get sexually mature in 18 months. Now, do your math.

ROFLMAO.

I must be one of the few who would get a chuckle out of that.
Gunnen4u Wrote:
mv Wrote:Creating a new breed takes 20+ generations, and unlike vampire bats, muslims do not get sexually mature in 18 months. Now, do your math.

ROFLMAO.

I must be one of the few who would get a chuckle out of that.

That is because you know very little about Michael. Anyway, 20 generations is about as pessimistic as one can become. I think three or four is more realistic.
Excuse me gentlemen,but London for decades has had an unwritten understanding with the radical Muslims JUST like Saudi Arabia did have.

They have it today and this attack MIGHT not change a da.mn thing. OPEN recruitment to MURDER Americans is a daily occurrence in Britain and is NOT against their laws.

I do not consider that much of a fricking ally,who the HELL needs enemies?
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