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Did the UN try to hide between Civilians?

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/articles/3...efire.html

Quote:Israeli forces have reportedly opened fire on a UN relief agency convoy in the Gaza Strip during its 3-hour military ceasefire.

UN spokesman Adnan Abu Hasna said Thursday that Israeli soldiers attacked a relief truck even though the United Nations had coordinated the delivery with Tel Aviv and the vehicle was marked with a UN flag and insignia.

"It has resulted tragically in the death of one and the injury of two others," said the head of the UN relief agency in Gaza, John Ging.

Tel Aviv declared a three-hour lull in its 13-day incursion into Gaza on Thursday to allow humanitarian aid pass into the beleaguered strip.

This comes as Israeli attacks on three UN-run schools has killed at least 43 civilians and injured over 150 others -- most of whom were seeking shelter inside the school to escape the arbitrary Israeli strikes.

The United Nations had reacted in shock to the incident and stepped up calls for an independent inquiry into the attack -- the deadliest since the Israeli offensive in Gaza began Dec. 27

"There must be a serious and independent investigation into the shocking loss of civilian life that took place near the UN school and that has characterized this conflict," said deputy Middle East director for Human Rights Watch, Joe Stork.

"The building was clearly waving a UN flag, there is no safe haven in Gaza. Look at what happened in Jabaliya yesterday," said Chris Gunness the spokesman for the UNWRA, the UN agency running the school.

Tel Aviv tried to justify the incident as an attack on a militant stronghold.

The UN, however, has dismissed the Israeli claims.

Israel waged war on the Gaza Strip on December 27 and began what it claims to be a "long-term" ground offensive on the Palestinian territory last Saturday.

Thus far, the Israeli aggression has killed at least 763 Palestinians and injured over 3,100 others -- a large number of casualties are civilians.

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Conjecture: Israel started the Gaza push before Bush left office, and it probably intends that it will have decimated "enough" Hamas "legitimate political leaders of Gaza" before Bush leaves office, or shortly thereafter.

If they can manage this, then they will have weakened Hamas in Gaza, perhaps fatally, and since they will be willing to pull out under the aegis of BHO-HRC initiatives, they will score points with the new administration.
JT,

Not possible. Hamas has too much civilian support.

IMO,if Hamas were smart,they would have welcomed the IDF in,exploded however many IEDs they should have planted,stand around and watch the IDF do nothing and then leave and then re-start my terrorism.
Palladin Wrote:JT,

Not possible. Hamas has too much civilian support.

IMO,if Hamas were smart,they would have welcomed the IDF in,exploded however many IEDs they should have planted,stand around and watch the IDF do nothing and then leave and then re-start my terrorism.
If Hamas has lots of civilian support, then they are bound to perform as "heroes" in the civilian eyes to maintain that support. I doubt that the civilians would want "shirking from outright battle" from their heroes. Thus Hamas can't play it smart as you suggest, even if they were smart enough to think of it, which is questionable.

But, you are not addressing the real question: Why did the Israeli's hit now and not a month later, say?
jt Wrote:But, you are not addressing the real question: Why did the Israeli's hit now and not a month later, say?

To give Obama cover. He can put a stop to it and look the hero. He is in Israel's pocket so this had to be planned.
Scgp is right on target. As for hitting the U.N. convoy, it was clearly a mistake. Mistakes happen in war, however unfortunate.
Since we've been friendlies to Israel and enemies of Islamic terrorists,I would be appalled if Obama were not in "Israel's pocket".


FDR was in England's pocket,maybe he should have sided with Hitler? Of course Obama is in Isarel's pocket,what nation does he represent,the freaking Ummah?
More importantly, the American people are much more sympathetic to Israel than they are to the Palestinians. That is the real reason America sides with Israel, not the Israeli Lobby. The American people demand it.
Palladin Wrote:Of course Obama is in Isarel's pocket,what nation does he represent

That is the question.
Its also important to understand that all the Arab governments are basically on Israel's side as well. They use Hamas as a public relations tool, but the truth is that they have good relations with Israel(conducted secretly via businessmen) and would far rather have Israel remain intact than the Palestinians receive a state. So really, America is on the same side as all the governments(excepting Iran, and Syria sometimes) in the region.
scpg02 Wrote:
jt Wrote:But, you are not addressing the real question: Why did the Israeli's hit now and not a month later, say?

To give Obama cover. He can put a stop to it and look the hero. He is in Israel's pocket so this had to be planned.

Can you explain why you think BHO is in Israel's pocket?
Anon,

Based on current reading,it appears the Arab states actually are strongly on Israel's side,more than I've ever read of. They fear Islamic fundies way worse than we do and the Saudis have had a learning experience with this nonsense themselves.

IF this were the PA,the Arab states would be screaming for us to intervene. Hamas,they want them dead and gone. Egypt is openly siding with Israel,this is unheard of in modern history.

The biggest protests are NOT in the Arab world,they're in the USA and Western Europe,2 areas stupid enough to invite Palestinians to live in. This has to be the most messed up culture on earth and we invite them here.

SCP,

Israel is popular here,why would you expect an American POTUS to side with Hamas?
Odd, that SA is spreading Wahhabism by funding it as much as they can everywhere they can, yet they fear Hamas. I guess they don't like the brand of Islamicism Hamas preaches.

The Egyptian government fears the Islamic Brotherhood.

Both the Saudis and the Egyptian ruling classes do not want to be put out of power. Neither are intrinsically pro Israel. It is as simple as that.
JT,

Pro Israeli can not be in Arabia. That's like saying Israel is pro Arabic. It sort of doesn't fit.

These 2 do see the danger of the extremists being viewed as legitimate though. They hope Israel could destroy Hamas as I think both see it as Iran's proxy.

The SA wahabbi funding is another story. It's a problem I don't know the answer to for sure.
jt Wrote:Odd, that SA is spreading Wahhabism by funding it as much as they can everywhere they can, yet they fear Hamas. I guess they don't like the brand of Islamicism Hamas preaches.

The Egyptian government fears the Islamic Brotherhood.

Both the Saudis and the Egyptian ruling classes do not want to be put out of power. Neither are intrinsically pro Israel. It is as simple as that.


Yep. Also, it has nothing really to do with the brand of Islamism of Hamas. They simply don't want Islamics to gain power.
Except for the fact that Hamas is not islamist. That's just propaganda.
All of you seem to be ducking the issue I raised. Consider this
Quote:Despite the continuing operation, Israeli officials have suggested the offensive might be approaching its end.

"The decision of the (UN) Security Council doesn't give us much leeway," Deputy Defence Minister Matan Vilnai told public radio.

"Thus it would seem that we are close to ending the ground operation and ending the operation altogether."

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has said Israel is nearing the goals it had set for its operation, but that fighting would continue for now.
l i n k h e r e.

Ugh, what a long url.

So, it appear that the Israeli's may be in and (essentially) out before BHO moves in to the WH. I think they do not want to test BHO's love of Israel.
jt Wrote:Ugh, what a long url.

Yes. Perhaps someone with moderator powers can change it to a "link" rather than the extensive URL.
jt -

Long URL now a short "link here."

How's that?
JohnWho Wrote:jt -

Long URL now a short "link here."

How's that?

Sad that one moderator had to fix another moderators post. Shock
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