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dang, i thought terrorism was a response to Amerikkkan Imperialism. yet here we have a suicide bomber in Somalia.

Quote:http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2...de_bombers

Five suicide bombers strike in northern Somalia

Northern Somalia was rocked today with five suicide attacks on multiple facilities, killing 28 Somalis and wounding scores more. The attacks appear to be the handiwork of Shabaab, the al Qaeda backed Islamist terror group seeking to retake control of the country.
This is bad news. I wish the good Somalis and Ethiopians well in this slugfest. Fanatical religious based Nihilism didn't start with the Bush Presidency,but to hear our leftist critics,you would think so.
maybe if Clinton hadn't pulled out of Somalia so hastily, we would have a presence there to help the poor people of Somalia.

have you been reading about the Somali pirates? crazy stuff in the world.

Somali pirates confiscated an Iranian ship and fell ill due to radiation poisoning.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/28/...610/613652
G,

In fairness,we had/have no ability to help Somalia become a normal nation-state. It's going to be a chaotic fiefdom of thugs unless a whole lot of thugs are killed,pure and simple.

It's not a nation at all. Largely,a bunch of rabble with no unifying idea,not even Islam.

They follow their tribal chiefs. In Iraq,that's true also,but they have an Iraqi nationalism,there is no Somali nationalism at all. If there were,we wouldn't have this problem.

Afghans also have no nationalism. Same problems,rougher terrain.
then give Ethopia all the tanks planes and bombs they need.
Palladin Wrote:G,

In fairness,we had/have no ability to help Somalia become a normal nation-state. It's going to be a chaotic fiefdom of thugs unless a whole lot of thugs are killed,pure and simple.

It's not a nation at all. Largely,a bunch of rabble with no unifying idea,not even Islam.

They follow their tribal chiefs. In Iraq,that's true also,but they have an Iraqi nationalism,there is no Somali nationalism at all. If there were,we wouldn't have this problem.

Afghans also have no nationalism. Same problems,rougher terrain.

its a breeding ground for terrorists and Al Qaeda. The next attack on America will come form a place like this. we cannot allow them to have this opportunity, yet we do not have the resources to chase them into every pissant scratch of dirt they feel like infesting. the world has to carry the water too at some point.
ghoullio Wrote:then give Ethopia all the tanks planes and bombs they need.
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Yes. It is a good idea. The Ethiopians are the only ones that can control the situation there in Somalia. They get much Russian support but they could need American support as well.

/track_snake
Track,

They get Russian support? I doubt it. Got any evidence indicating Russia has assisted them security wise since 1990?
I also doubt that the Ethiopians are currently recieving any Russian assistance. During the time when Mengistu was in charge and had established a communist government there (one more massive communist failure), the USSR provided them with a huge air force, army and navy filled with Russian equipment. This all came apart when the Eritreans and the Tigrays gained the upper hand and marched on Addis Ababa. Since then the Ethiopians have bought spare parts and some newer equipment from Russia and former satellite countries but as far as I know there have been no aid or assistance projects.

Besides, except for Moscow and some of thelarger cities, Russia remains pretty much in need of assistance themselves. If it wasnt for the recent high price of oil, the entire country would still be the dump that the communists made of it. Now that has come to an end so let's see what happens next.
I also doubt that the Ethiopians are currently recieving any Russian assistance. During the time when Mengistu was in charge and had established a communist government there (one more massive communist failure), the USSR provided them with a huge air force, army and navy filled with Russian equipment. This all came apart when the Eritreans and the Tigrays gained the upper hand and marched on Addis Ababa. Since then the Ethiopians have bought spare parts and some newer equipment from Russia and former satellite countries but as far as I know there have been no aid or assistance projects.

Besides, except for Moscow and some of thelarger cities, Russia remains pretty much in need of assistance themselves. If it wasnt for the recent high price of oil, the entire country would still be the dump that the communists made of it. Now that has come to an end so let's see what happens next.
The Russians won't assist anyone with good intent. Their clients always have been the rogues. In my lifetime,the only example of assistance to the lesser of 2 evils was with the NA and they had no option as they were on the Russki border.

They'd help the Ethiopians if the Ethiopians were back into arming Islamic terrorists or advancing Marxist causes.