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Real estate owners and developers sue Greenpeace for dire predictions of GW induced sea level rise.
Evidently greenpeace pulled out the stops on its scare tactics. They published a pamphlet:
Quote:Along with photos of a dried up Ebro River in Zaragoza and a desert in an area of Valencia now filled with lemon and orange groves, the book, Photoclima, shows digitally modified photos of La Manga submerged in water with only the tops of hotels, apartment blocks and palm trees emerging from the blue Mediterranean.

Quote:According to José Ángel Abad, a lawyer who has taken up the case of the area's aggrieved developers and home owners, prices have plunged by "50 percent" in recent months - a dramatic fall even in light of the end of a nationwide house price boom.
Will it go to court?
Personally, I hope it does.

Any opportunity to debate the GW (should be GW/GC) situation should limit the overreaction we now see to a situation that isn't happening.

I'm all for moving forward based on reasonably sound science rather than the psuedo-science and false information the media seems to embrace.
It looks like this is the only way to fight both the earth worshippers,leftists and Islamists since we've lost our objectivity largely as a people.
Greenpeace, and ALL the AGW True Believers will climb Italian marble to keep from being hauled into court. They know that they will be defeated, if required to go head to head on a scientific, legal, and even handed manner.

That is why Algore steadfastly refuses to debate any challengers. He knows he will lose. I suspect being from Tennessee, part time anyway, he knows how William Jennings Bryan was publically humilated, by Clarence Darrow, over the Scopes Monkey Trial, in Dayton, Tennessee.

The AGW kooks need to be taken to court when ever possible, just to make the news and prove them wrong.
Sea levels are rising at 2-3 mm a year. They are predicted to dramatically rise 8-10 mm a year. Oooo I'm scared, what about you?
scpg02 Wrote:Sea levels are rising at 2-3 mm a year. They are predicted to dramatically rise 8-10 mm a year. Oooo I'm scared, what about you?

Me too. And no matter what happens, even with a little ice age, the sea levels will continue to slowly rise. Horrors! Only a REAL ice age will reverse this trend, and we all want that, right? Shock I just love the idea of 30% of all the earth's land mass locked up in ice, and that much water out of the atmospheric process.
Quote:Sea levels are rising at 2-3 mm a year. They are predicted to dramatically rise 8-10 mm a year. Oooo I'm scared, what about you?


Not really.

I can swim.
John L Wrote:
scpg02 Wrote:Sea levels are rising at 2-3 mm a year. They are predicted to dramatically rise 8-10 mm a year. Oooo I'm scared, what about you?

Me too. And no matter what happens, even with a little ice age, the sea levels will continue to slowly rise. Horrors! Only a REAL ice age will reverse this trend, and we all want that, right? Shock I just love the idea of 30% of all the earth's land mass locked up in ice, and that much water out of the atmospheric process.

Yeah, I'd rather have the rising sea levels over THAT.
In the long term (geologic time) the sea level will drop because the seabed is sinking.
What is interesting is that the land mass, which used to have huge ice sheets, such as Scandanavia, is slowly rising. This is due to the weight of the ice pushing the land mass downward. Now that the weight has been removed, it is slowly rising.
scpg02 Wrote:Sea levels are rising at 2-3 mm a year. They are predicted to dramatically rise 8-10 mm a year. Oooo I'm scared, what about you?
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Well...

And what is the reason for the rise?

Melting ice?

Expanding sea water due to GW?

Something else?

/track_snake
track_snake Wrote:And what is the reason for the rise?

/track_snake

Oh, that's simple: the end of the last ice age. That's the reason. Even if the world cooled down, the globe would still be warm enough to show a net melting of ice, which began when we came out of the last ice age. We would have to start down the long slope toward a frozen world, before the lag period would counter the melting. Even though the melting is much slower now, it is still melting, which is normal.

Have you ever studied ice age science T_S? As a physical anthropologist that is a requirement, because most of man's history was during the Pleistocene. That is why I fear a return to a cooler world than anything warmer. I KNOW what happens when the ice returns, and it Ain't pretty.
John L Wrote:I KNOW what happens when the ice returns, and it Ain't pretty.

Agreed. Every scenario I've seen is ... (wait for it)

chilling.






ba dum bump
:lol:
JohnWho Wrote:
John L Wrote:I KNOW what happens when the ice returns, and it Ain't pretty.

Agreed. Every scenario I've seen is ... (wait for it)

chilling.






ba dum bump
:lol:

JW, I now dub thee, "Pun King" . Master of Puns, you may now rise. S6
John L Wrote:JW, I now dub thee, "Pun King" S6

Cool.

Do I get a raise?

:lol:

Should I change my avatar to this:

[Image: pumpkinab0.jpg]
JohnWho Wrote:
John L Wrote:JW, I now dub thee, "Pun King" S6

Cool.

Do I get a raise?

:lol:

Should I change my avatar to this:

[Image: pumpkinab0.jpg]

You mean "rise"? Wink1

As for the avatar, I like the one you have better. S6

Note: or one with some crafty surgury may suffice, to make the pun, in pun-king, better.
Armadillo Wrote:In the long term (geologic time) the sea level will drop because the seabed is sinking.
I really suggest you review that. You saying the planet is shrinking?
track_snake Wrote:
scpg02 Wrote:Sea levels are rising at 2-3 mm a year. They are predicted to dramatically rise 8-10 mm a year. Oooo I'm scared, what about you?
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And what is the reason for the rise?
/track_snake

When there was a mile or two of ice on the continents, they sank due to the plastic/fluid nature of the earth's core (isostacy). This is what produced the great lakes in the US. After the ice was removed, the land masses gradually began to rise again. It is not instantaneous, due to the rigidity of the crust, and the plasticity of the mantle. Google isostacy to get more explanations.
Ice Age bad? I dunno, Reading the Jean Auel novels is fun, and Ayla is great. Up there with Honor Harrington as a heroine. Jondalar is a jerk, but the age they lived in was just a fact of life - not the end of the world.
jt Wrote:
track_snake Wrote:
scpg02 Wrote:Sea levels are rising at 2-3 mm a year. They are predicted to dramatically rise 8-10 mm a year. Oooo I'm scared, what about you?
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And what is the reason for the rise?
/track_snake

When there was a mile or two of ice on the continents, they sank due to the plastic/fluid nature of the earth's core (isostacy). This is what produced the great lakes in the US. After the ice was removed, the land masses gradually began to rise again. It is not instantaneous, due to the rigidity of the crust, and the plasticity of the mantle. Google isostacy to get more explanations.
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Yes. But it was sea levels rising by 2-3 mm per year. Not the land.
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