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Quote:Colombia seizes uranium from leftist guerrillas

By Hugh Bronstein

BOGOTA, March 26 (Reuters) - Colombia said it seized at least 66 pounds (30 kg) of uranium from the country's biggest left-wing rebel group on Wednesday, the first time radioactive material has been linked to the four-decade-old guerrilla war.

The uranium was found in a rural area long considered a Marxist guerrilla stronghold just south of the capital Bogota.

It is being examined by government experts, the defense ministry said in a statement, although it did not say where the material came from or what it could be used for.

An expert on Colombia's cocaine-fueled conflict said rebels of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, do not have the facilities needed to make a bomb with uranium.

"This appears to have been part of a black market operation that the guerrillas were trying to use to make money," said Pablo Casas, an analyst at Bogota think-tank Security and Democracy.

"This is new for Colombia and could bring the FARC into the major leagues of black market terrorist transactions," he said.

The government said information about the stash of uranium was found earlier this month in computer files left behind by top guerrilla leader Raul Reyes, who was killed in a Colombian bomb strike against a FARC camp in neighboring in Ecuador.

The March 1 raid sparked a major diplomatic dispute between Colombia's President Alvaro Uribe, a conservative ally of the United States, and the left-wing leaders of Ecuador and Venezuela.

Colombia also claims the files show evidence that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has given financial support to the FARC.

The United States, which calls the FARC a terrorist group and has long considered Chavez a destabilizing force in Latin America, said the evidence is "disturbing" .

Chavez openly sympathizes with the FARC but says Colombia's accusations are part of a U.S.-backed plot to smear him. He has also questioned how the computer files could have survived the bombing raid.

The FARC took up arms in the 1960s and is now funded mostly by cocaine smuggling and extortion. The group says it is fighting a Marxist insurgency meant to close the wide gap that separates rich and poor in this Andean country.

"No one believes the FARC wants to blow up Bogota to further the revolution," said a diplomat based in the capital who asked not to be named.

"This seems more like a black market action than military action. It shows again how the FARC is behaving more like an organized crime group than a political group," the diplomat said.

The war kills, maims and displaces thousands of Colombians every year. (Reporting by Hugh Bronstein; Editing by Kieran Murray)
Hmm. Columbia has been proactive lately. A good sign.
Obama has FARC connections. I think I posted something on it on one of the Obama threads.
If FARC can get its hands on uranium, so can the militant Muslims.
Since the subject is uranium, and FARC, let me address this. It doesn't matter who, or what, has 66 pounds of uranium. I cannot begin to tell you how much uranium is needed for enrichment in order to produce one little fission bomb, but it is countless tons. Sixty-six pounds? Yawn........................totally irrelevent.

And since mined uranium comes form different places, I believe Brazil has places where it is mined, it is not such a big deal. Remember, once the uranium is mined, it must eliminate all the other impurities from it, in order to become "yellow cake". And then it is composed of 99.7 percent of U-238, which is non-fissile. Only .7 parts of one percent is U235, which IS fissile.

And then it must be enriched, which means that almost all of the U-238 must be removed.

In other words, not worth getting exorcised over. Sure it makes great MSM copy, but even those turkeys have no idea about how the "U" atoms work. After all, they are in the MSM, which is lower than the Education field(teachers). What can one expect here?
Maybe we can store used-up MSM in Yucca.
WmLambert Wrote:Maybe we can store used-up MSM in Yucca.

Why just the "used up" ones? Why not all of them?
John L Wrote:In other words, not worth getting exorcised over. Sure it makes great MSM copy, but even those turkeys have no idea about how the "U" atoms work. After all, they are in the MSM, which is lower than the Education field(teachers). What can one expect here?

I haven't heard any declarations about what this was. It could be anything from yellow cake to weapons grade. But even if it's merely worthy of a second rate 'dirty' bomb, FARC sh*theads having control over it is worth at least a couple beads of sweat. You could probably make a device from old '50s era glow in the dark watches and do billion$ in damage if your timing and placement was right. Having crap like this happening in Latin America is simply TOO close to home even if it's low grade crap.
mr_yak Wrote:
John L Wrote:In other words, not worth getting exorcised over. Sure it makes great MSM copy, but even those turkeys have no idea about how the "U" atoms work. After all, they are in the MSM, which is lower than the Education field(teachers). What can one expect here?

I haven't heard any declarations about what this was. It could be anything from yellow cake to weapons grade. But even if it's merely worthy of a second rate 'dirty' bomb, FARC sh*theads having control over it is worth at least a couple beads of sweat. You could probably make a device from old '50s era glow in the dark watches and do billion$ in damage if your timing and placement was right. Having crap like this happening in Latin America is simply TOO close to home even if it's low grade crap.

Anyone exposed to even low lever radiation can accumulate enough rads to make you permanently sick. Those radium girls, in the early part of the 20th century watch making trade, are a classic example. However, the odds of enriched uranium, much less weapons grade(one in billions odds) are slightly longer than your chances of winning the Power Ball jackpot. Wink1

And no, you can't make a nuclear weapon from anything short of a 90% plus mixture of U-235, which is...........................I can't begin to imagine the odds. Let's just say that a "dirty bomb" is all they could come up with, before they were overcome by radiation poisioning themselves. A dirty bomb is far more dangerous to the maker than the recipient. Not worth the time.
John L Wrote:And no, you can't make a nuclear weapon from anything short of a 90% plus mixture of U-235, which is...........................I can't begin to imagine the odds. Let's just say that a "dirty bomb" is all they could come up with, before they were overcome by radiation poisioning themselves. A dirty bomb is far more dangerous to the maker than the recipient. Not worth the time.

1. Again ... the Columbian's haven't qualified the quality now have they? Unlikely that it's the good stuff. But ... again ... it's unknown if it's 1% or 99%. Until the value is assigned, how can the threat level possibly be assessed? We're speculating ... and I'm in a mood to speculate hysterically ... so sue me.

2. "Not worth the time" .... are you kidding? ANYTHING that even registers on a gieger counter can cause a HUGE amount of economic damage. You're 'assuming' that Wall Street is going to be capable of making a rational assessment if a device (any such device with so much as a tritium ampule) was used on their front porch. It's an INVALID assumption. Screwing with our economy is definitely worth any number of nasty people's time.
Sigh,........Mister Yak, if it was weapon's grade, the Colombians would be in Hyper-overdrive, and the UN would be hastily organizing groups at the swankiest Colombian resort hotels day before yesterday.

And if it was reactor grade uranium, there would be a "signature" there, telling EVERYONE from whence it originated. Groups would be headed there yesterday, and it would be all over the Looney MSM bins. Trust me on this.

It is at the very best "yellow cake" grade, which is only worth a momentary 'huffin' and puffin' from the Media. It's not worth the hyperventilation caused by the 'so called' elite press.
John L Wrote:Sigh,........Mister Yak, if it was weapon's grade, the Colombians would be in Hyper-overdrive, and the UN would be hastily organizing groups at the swankiest Colombian resort hotels day before yesterday.

And if it was reactor grade uranium, there would be a "signature" there, telling EVERYONE from whence it originated. Groups would be headed there yesterday, and it would be all over the Looney MSM bins. Trust me on this.

It is at the very best "yellow cake" grade, which is only worth a momentary 'huffin' and puffin' from the Media. It's not worth the hyperventilation caused by the 'so called' elite press.

1. Why the heck would UN types brave Colombia when they are perfectly capable of outsourcing their little 'emergency' seminars to someplace like Bali?

2. Whose to say there isn't a signature? But would you really be enthusiastic about p*ssing off Putin these days?

3. These guys are financed with mucho drugo dinero ... and hang with high class pals like Hugo. A cheap a** barrel of Nigerian Yellow Cake would be like having your mistress seen wearing cubic zirconium. FARC may be a bunch of murdering bastards, but I really can't see them tarnishing their image in that kind of tawdry manner.
scpg02 Wrote:Obama has FARC connections. I think I posted something on it on one of the Obama threads.
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What do you mean with FARC connections? Not anymore than what Saddam had Al Qaeda connections?

Many senators travel around the world and meet people from different regions. He might just have happened to meet one FARC representative at a time. Nothing curious with that.

/track_snake
track_snake Wrote:
scpg02 Wrote:Obama has FARC connections. I think I posted something on it on one of the Obama threads.
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What do you mean with FARC connections? Not anymore than what Saddam had Al Qaeda connections?

Many senators travel around the world and meet people from different regions. He might just have happened to meet one FARC representative at a time. Nothing curious with that.

/track_snake
She meant that the FARC seek to destroy Israel.
John,

I think if FARC could take an explosive of fairly good potential,place the ore within it,they could shut down Bogota's economy. Same for NYC. IF I had 66 lbs(which is literally a handful incidently,the stuff is denser than lead) and could explode a car bomb with dispersal techniques,do you NOT realize the hysteria I could create on Wall Street?

No one would be harmed by contamination truthfully,but people are hysterical about radioactive elements due to stupidity,it would be an awesome terror weapon due to this stupidity. So,YES,it's a da.mn big positive Colombian troopers found it.