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Quote:WASHINGTON (AFP) - President George W. Bush authorized Wednesday supplying Kosovo with weapons, signaling the establishment of government-to-government relations after recognizing its independence, the White House said.


In a memo to the State Department made public by the White House, Bush said: "I hereby find that the furnishing of defense articles and defense services to Kosovo will strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080319/pl_...ssiaserbia
I like Bush's peculiar wit.
Anonymous24 Wrote:
Quote:WASHINGTON (AFP) - President George W. Bush authorized Wednesday supplying Kosovo with weapons, signaling the establishment of government-to-government relations after recognizing its independence, the White House said.


In a memo to the State Department made public by the White House, Bush said: "I hereby find that the furnishing of defense articles and defense services to Kosovo will strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080319/pl_...ssiaserbia
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Well...

What will the Muslims in Kosovo use the weapons against? Probably the remaining Serbs in a coming genocide. If not Russia allows for weapons being sold to the Serb minority in Kosovo to defend them against the Muslims.

Then we have a US/Russia conflict going on in Kosovo...

/track_snake
Track,

One thing we agree on is Kosovo,but they are no more Muslims than you and I are. Albanian "Ghegs"(1 of 3 major tribes in Albania) converted under Turk occupation for convenince,there is absolutely no evidence they took it seriously and many Muslims agree with me and say they are NOT real Muslims.

They are problematic because they tend to conduct serious organized criminality and they hang within families so it is exceptionally difficult to penetrate their organizations.

The Europeans hope that this will keep those Ghegs inside Kosovo and not causing them trouble,I would have preferred the Serbs handle the problems for me,but Europe and their lackey the USA are too squeamish for that.
Junior has not seen a terrorist he does not like..... Sad.


It looks like we are seeing a large, at least 2-front, confrontation in progress.

Since the failure of Rice visit to Moscow we have
1. Bush supplying weapons to the Albanian Mob
2. Bush endorsing NATO for Georgia
3. Putin sending "peacekeepers" to the enclaves in Georgia
4. Possible recognition of the enclaves by Putin (Duma is to submit recommendations on Mar 21).

So far, I don't see a response by Putin in Kosovo, there should be some. Additional moves may be seen in the Mid-East and Ukraine.
I wonder what makes Junior to be deliberately confrontational at this point? Supplying Kosovo gangs with weapons is not exactly news, we did this when Premier Thaci was still a minor drug trafficker...but Junior chose to be loud.

Could this be that the concerns about economy are the cause? We are likely heading into a major recession, and there is really no better medicine than an international crisis. A Quick Victorious War,...perhaps Junior reads Weber? :lol:
The Rice visit to Moscow would be a failure by Moscow. If they must be on the outside looking in, then that is their choice.

As I pointed out, Bush sees states assuming responsibility for any terrorists within their geographic area as a positive step, whether Muslim, Christian, or otherwise. Getting the states to honor their responsibility is the next piece in the puzzle.
WmLambert Wrote:The Rice visit to Moscow would be a failure by Moscow.

by someone.

Rice went to Moscow to make a deal to avoid the current escalation. The deal was not made. Who is at fault we cannot judge.
Bad, very bad development. It is extremely dangerous to put oneself in the corner with limited room to maneuver. I think that chances of major conflagration became higher because of this.
Let the Euros deal with it, AND Russia. It's in their back yard anyway. Have them take out some of their welfare spending and buttress up their almost non-existent military for a change.
William,

Kosovo gets independence guaranteed by Yanks,sections of Georgia get it guaranteed by Russia,can you explain why any of that is positive for our nation?

Russia can't change Kosovo,we can't change Georgia,want to exlain who the genius is here? Think maybe pissing in Putin's eyes will make him more amenable to assists with Iran do ya?

Rice may as well be mentally retarded at this point. Iran and Islam is the issue and she's pissing in Putin's eyes over a bunch of gangsters in Kosovo and you see that as a loss for Russia?

I guess us Tennessee red necks aren't sophisticated enough to think like you Michigan boys. Something tells me Iran is more a prize than Kosovo,but then again,I am a red neck southerner.
The problem is that the Kosovars are eventually going to become their own nation, whether we like it or not. The world is in a rapid process of national fission - different ethnic groups claiming their own state and territory - and its only going to get worse. Like globalization, this is a process we can't stop or fight. We'd only spend resources and good will trying to slow it down.
What a joke. Those thugs couldn't get independence in 10 million years w/o our intervention. "Kosovars". What a robot to Clinton pr,there is nothing called a Kosovar until 1999 and that mindless jackas's creating the term. It's a province of a sovereign nation even the UN hasn't to this day authorized our crimes committed there.

I'd be glad to see them try to get independence on their own,they tried for 600 years with Turks first doing their fighting,then Bill Clinton and now this boneheaded idiot we have in office currently. The day US troops leave,Serb troops return and remand their land to the people of Serbia.
I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but I'll do it anyway. The side, that supports the breaking up of other countries, is going to be on the winning side, because that is the trend around the world.

However, were I Russia, I would be careful about what I was doing, because it is going to happen to Russia again before all is over. Russia, expecially under a Collectivist Fascist government, will not be able to control things for ever. Eventually other provinces will want to have their own independence, and that will be interesting, as they say in China.

As for the US, smometimes I really wish we too would break up and all thos Collectivist Kooks grab their little squirrel's nests and the rest of us could get back to living what the country was founded on originally. If we divided, it would not bother me one bit. The smaller, the merrier.
Quote:What a joke. Those thugs couldn't get independence in 10 million years w/o our intervention. "Kosovars". What a robot to Clinton pr,there is nothing called a Kosovar until 1999 and that mindless jackas's creating the term. It's a province of a sovereign nation even the UN hasn't to this day authorized our crimes committed there.

You're right - they probably couldn't get independence on their own. But they could sure as well set the stage for some ethnic cleansing. Truth is, the Kosovars and Serbs are going to go to war or near-war whether or not we intervene... though, I agree, supplying them is fanning the flames and a stupid move. IMO, we should just disavow ourselves of the Balkans.
ag Wrote:Bad, very bad development. It is extremely dangerous to put oneself in the corner with limited room to maneuver. I think that chances of major conflagration became higher because of this.

Yep. Junior seems to be envious of cornered Putin and puts himself into a corner too. Now, WWI scenario has a (miniscule) chance to be repeated; I would not be too surprised seeing Junior making Nikolai's misjudgments...same intelligence level.

Anon, PLEASE, there is no such thing as "Kosovar". They are Albanians, or if you prefer, follow Palladin and examine them on tribal level.

Anon Wrote:IMO, we should just disavow ourselves of the Balkans.

I find it interesting seeing Anon and Palladin taking the same position. Of course... But with Junior running the show, don't expect much.
Whatever S6 If they want to be called Kosovars, I don't care S6

In a way, they are their own group, since they don't want to be with the Serbs, and evidently the Albanians don't want them either.
Anonymous24 Wrote:Whatever S6 If they want to be called Kosovars, I don't care S6

In a way, they are their own group, since they don't want to be with the Serbs, and evidently the Albanians don't want them either.

The merge with Albanian will come later. First economical, then political.
Quote: find it interesting seeing Anon and Palladin taking the same position. Of course... But with Junior running the show, don't expect much.

I pretty much oppose any kind of unnecessary military intervention or supplying arms. Palladin is the same. The disagreement is what we deem 'unnecessary'. But in this case, even if there is some advantage to arming the "Albanian exiles", it'll cause more trouble than it fixes by earning the ill-will of everyone else in the region. Besides... its none of our business.
John,

I wish we could have an amicable split,but it won't happen because these leftists have invaded our homeland down south,if we ran them out,they'd come back after buying winter homes!
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