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The UN passed 14-0 new sanctions against Iran for continuing enrichment.
Glacial progress. The article is not very specific, but it says "For the first time, the resolution bans trade with Iran in goods which have both civilian and military uses." Will anyone but the US invoke such sanctions? Will it matter at all?
In a word, probably not. Opps, that was two words, wasn't it? Shock :lol:
GE is already in flout mode. Double secret probation probably isn't apt to change their business model.
jt Wrote: The UN passed 14-0 new sanctions against Iran for continuing enrichment.
Glacial progress. The article is not very specific, but it says "For the first time, the resolution bans trade with Iran in goods which have both civilian and military uses." Will anyone but the US invoke such sanctions? Will it matter at all?
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Well... Is Iraq also for the new sanctions? Since Iraq and Iran seem to have become such close friends... (with the help of US...)?

/track_snake
Sanctions won't make Iran halt nuclear production. This is counterproductive, if anything it will turn Iranians who were against the regime out of favour with the Western world...
They might have an effect if they were applied in some form other than weak lip service. As it is it gives Ahmadinejad something to rail against without actually having to feel any real discomfort. We rattle our swords ... then GE builds them new power plants ... on second thoughts I'm with you buddy ... counterproductive it is. Wink1
Track,

Iraq is assisting which terrorist groups on earth? I find your accusations and those of others w/o merit comparing them with Iran. WHAT is Iraq doing that makes Iraq comparable to Iran in international terrorist assistance?

There is every reason to believe the opposite,Iraq was,but is NOT assisting any terror groups on earth. Iraq is a bulwark of firmer foundation against Iranian advances now then when they were ruled by a minority of it's citizens w/o the asking as well,then the Shiites were open to a pan Shia confederation to get out of the grip of Saddam's rule.
Palladin Wrote:Track,

Iraq is assisting which terrorist groups on earth? I find your accusations and those of others w/o merit comparing them with Iran. WHAT is Iraq doing that makes Iraq comparable to Iran in international terrorist assistance?

There is every reason to believe the opposite,Iraq was,but is NOT assisting any terror groups on earth. Iraq is a bulwark of firmer foundation against Iranian advances now then when they were ruled by a minority of it's citizens w/o the asking as well,then the Shiites were open to a pan Shia confederation to get out of the grip of Saddam's rule.
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Well....

It seems to be the opposite. Saddam and the Baath Party were opponents of everything in Iran especially the Shia rule there. Now that US helped the Shias to take over Iraq the Ayatollahs in Tehran got some good friends in Iraq. Iraq is not a bulwark anymore against Iranian advances. It was before when Saddam fought several wars with Iran.

And I did not say that Iraq was assisting any terror groups. Neither was nor is.
Track,

You really think a brittle state like post invasion Iraq would be a bulwark against Iran long term? You can't long run a state like that w/o revolution,it seems reasonable to me the NEXT Iranian war with Iraq would have seen Saddam's Shiites side WITH Iran.

Now,it will see the majority protecting their turf. No disrespect to you and others who keep spouting this nonsense,but it's nonsense. Apparently,neither of you read much about Intra Shia rivalry,try doing it before making such statements.

The ARAB Shia claim their cities are THE HOLY cities and they claim THEIR Shia is superior to Iran's Shia(it teachs significantly different way of life modes). Shia Islam is an ARAB invention,not Persian and Arabs don't bequeath leadership to Persians,Turks or Jews. Shia's most famous Icon is an ARAB,an IRAQI ARAB.

Time to start using your brain. Maybe Iraq is weakner right now than under Saddam,but when their new Army is squared away and they have made their political deals,they will be a much more capable stalwart against Islamic terrorism or Iranian hegemony than under such a brittle state as Hussein ran,the Shiites practically coimmitted treason when we entered,they would have under Iran as well had they entered first.

Not to mention the US Army is on their side and will never leave Iraq,which means Iran ain't doing sh.it in Iraq,nor will Iraq support terrorism like Iraq used to surreptiously with the Palestinians,etc.
Palladin,

Do you really think that the rivalry is so great between various branches of Shias that the Iraqi Shia Government will stand up against Iran? No, the recent visit by Ahmedinejad in Iraq shows that there is much fraternization. Don't expect any more wars between Iraq and Iran now for some time. But if Saddam and the pro-Sunni Baath party had ruled still, we could not say that another Iraq-Iran war is impossible...

/track_snake
I'm sure the TV holding hands was for show. Iraq and Iran are not friends, even if similar religions exist in both places. However; as Iran slides into the Western sphere and democratizes, they will grow to be on the same side.