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You know,no Jew ever questions the rights of Arabs to all the Arab states,including these not originally Arab,such as all the north African states.

Yet,Muslims find it proper to make threats in Europe(not yet a Muslim state) about them not treating Israel like Hitler would have. What a bunch of robotic and evil pukes.

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The hippie generation never did learn to say no to dingbats, such as these Arabs protesting the book fair. They are always afforded press space/time and get to play the squeaky wheel. The selfsame generation seems to feel that any squeaky wheel (no matter how bizarre) needs to be oiled unless you belong to "the majority". There are no principles, only sensitivities and angst.
I remember the USA and a couple of their satellites boycotting the Olympic games of Moscow for the same reason, not Israeli crimes against humanity in Palestina, but the USSR's crimes against humanity in a Muslim country, Afghanistan. What a bunch of hippies, no principles, only sensitivities and angst.

What threats did those Muslim countries make? Suicide bombing the book fair? No, they withdrew. And what exactly are the French supposed to do, organising the exhibition? Declare war on Islam?
Declare war in Islam and force them to become good Catholics.
Palladin Wrote:no Jew ever questions the rights of Arabs to all the Arab states,including these not originally Arab,such as all the north African states.

I would say that Israel has questioned 'the right' of (former) Arab land in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Sinai Peninsula and Golan Heights. In the first two cases denied the rights of Arabs to return to these lands...

WarBicycle Wrote:Declare war in Islam and force them to become good Catholics.

Interesting prospect if not meant satirically Wink1 . How does one declare war on Islam?... as it is not a country. And how do you force people to be good Catholics if there is no example to lead them?

Just a thought.
The west bank and gaza have never been states for starters. They have been administrated for at least the last 700 years by Turks ,Brits,Egyptians,Arabs and Jews.

There is no state there of Arabs,never has been a state there of Arabs.

I'm certain the Jews will challenge a state there if one existed since it would mean the death knell of Israel.

They never challenged the Egyptian claimon Sinai not the Golan with Syria,but those neighbors had a tendency to invade Irsael and in Syria's case they haven't signed a peace treaty and you wouldn't expect Jews to be beneficient to their enemies more than Muslims are would you?
I referred to the West Bank, GS, Golan Heights and Sinai (which has since been returned to Egypt) as land which was occupied by Arabs. You are right in saying that the Gaza Strip and the West Bank have been administered for the last 700 years and are not independent states, but where previously administered by Arab states, Egypt and Jordan and both considered Arab land before the six day war.

To say Syria and Egypt had a tendency to invade Israel is an overstatement, they did it twice. Once in 1948 and again (as a proxy of the USSR in 1968). Israel invaded Egypt twice and Syria once since then on grounds that they were amassing forces on their borders (something that is historically disputed) and later with the help of Britain and France (and behind the US's back) in a failed attempt to seize the Suez Canal - an action that was condemned by the US and the UN.

Much of these lands are contested battlegrounds (one of which is still a battleground today) making it difficult to determine who owns what. My point was that the land is contested by both sides, neither is magnanimous toward the other.
Overstatement? How many times has Canada invaded the USA? How many times have we invaded Canada? 1 time is too many when the goal is to murder all the people there and you're numbers are wrong anyway.

Egypt and Syria invaded Israel in 1948,1967 and 1973. 3X in 60 years and a long term,never ending proxy war via the Muslim terror groups. These Arabs are lucky their enemies are Jews and not us,they'd likely all be dead by now if they lobbed bombs every day into our neighborhoods and should be.
Palladin Wrote:Egypt and Syria invaded Israel in 1948,1967 and 1973. 3X in 60 years and a long term,never ending proxy war via the Muslim terror groups.

The dates are correct. You included 1967 - the six day war - which was technically instigated by Israel and not by Arab states. I think the violence that comes from the Gaza Strip & West Bank is not proxy, it is direct from the people in those areas, though as they are not representatives of a state it makes it difficult to define.

Palladin Wrote:These Arabs are lucky their enemies are Jews and not us,they'd likely all be dead by now if they lobbed bombs every day into our neighborhoods and should be.

A fair amount of 'bomb lobbing' occurs on both sides. I think to say all your enemies can be killed is impossible, knock down one man and his son will take up arms against you; any other country would similarly face the problem Israel experiences - employing these tactics...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7276138.stm
Preventing another holocaust by moving before your enemy who is logistically prepared for one is not a technical point. Not to me,but then I do not view Islamic peoples as justified in much of anything they say,do or think .
mcabromb Wrote:
Palladin Wrote:Egypt and Syria invaded Israel in 1948,1967 and 1973. 3X in 60 years and a long term,never ending proxy war via the Muslim terror groups.

The dates are correct. You included 1967 - the six day war - which was technically instigated by Israel and not by Arab states. I think the violence that comes from the Gaza Strip & West Bank is not proxy, it is direct from the people in those areas, though as they are not representatives of a state it makes it difficult to define.

Palladin Wrote:These Arabs are lucky their enemies are Jews and not us,they'd likely all be dead by now if they lobbed bombs every day into our neighborhoods and should be.

A fair amount of 'bomb lobbing' occurs on both sides. I think to say all your enemies can be killed is impossible, knock down one man and his son will take up arms against you; any other country would similarly face the problem Israel experiences - employing these tactics...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7276138.stm

The Israeli invasion was preemptive, and simply beat the arabs to the punch, after they massed their armies on the border first. In other words, it was defensive in that they shot the arabs before the arabs had a chance to pull the trigger and shoot them first. I have no quarrel with that.

In other words, this brings up the whole definition of the term "Assault and Battery". The law states that under threat of assault and believing this, a person has a right to defend his/her self. "Assault" is simply the actual threat of violence, and "Battery" is the carrying out of that threat. Clearly the Israelis beleived themselves to be under assault, and defended themselves. The did not have to be beaten over the head first.
John,

No,but like a fool,Golda forced the IDF to wait on the Muslims to invade first to impress folks like this gentleman in 1973 and it cost Israel many a dead soldier. I've got Nixon's
autobiography and he said it got VERY touch and go in 73. I think closer to destruction than anyone outside Israel realizes.

Israel almost ran out of bullets and bombs,we did emergency airlifts or there would have been a holocaust within days according to Nixon.

A retired solider named Sharon was recalled to active duty to save the situation and Arik as always kicked that Islamic as.s.