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Quote:Interior Ministry Warns of Radicalization of Muslims

A new study commissioned by Germany's Interior Ministry warns of a growing threat from the radicalization of Muslims in the country. Six percent of Muslims in Germany support violence in the name of Islam, the authors write.

A new study released by Germany's Interior Ministry has added new fuel to the debate about integration of Muslims in Germany, with the report warning about the danger of radicalization of Muslims.

According to the study, which was published Tuesday, around 40 percent of Muslims surveyed had a "fundamentalist orientation," which the authors defined as a strongly religious worldview and moral values.

However, the authors concluded that the vast majority of Muslims in Germany reject religiously motivated terrorism and violence: Some 92 percent of respondents agreed with the statement that terrorist acts in the name of Islam were a serious sin and an insult to Allah.

But the authors saw a potential threat in a small minority with Islamist leanings: Around 6 percent of those surveyed were classified as having "violent tendencies," while 14 percent of respondents had "anti-democratic" tendencies.

Around 12 percent of the Muslims in Germany identified with a religious-moral critique of the West and supported corporal punishment and the death penalty. The report also concluded that religious beliefs are becoming increasingly important for young people.

The study, which was carried out by Katrin Brettfeld and Peter Wetzels from the Institute for Criminology at the University of Hamburg, was commissioned by the Interior Ministry in an attempt to finding out the extent to which the Muslim community in Germany provides a breeding ground for extremist groups and potential terrorists. The authors interviewed 1,750 Muslims living in Germany for the study. Of that number, around 40 percent had German citizenship.

'Fundamental Religious Orientation'

In the introduction to the report, Interior Minister Wolfgang Schäuble writes that the study leads to the "worrying conclusion that a serious potential for Islamist radicalization has developed in Germany." According to Schäuble, the lack of integration of immigrants into German society is leading to a "fundamental religious orientation."

The survey found that more than half of the respondents felt themselves excluded from German society and felt they were treated as foreigners. Around 20 percent had experienced some form of racism within the last 12 months.

Reacting to the study, Christine Haderthauer, general secretary of the conservative Bavarian party the Christian Social Union, said that her party "has always warned against the dangers of parallel societies. Our fears have been confirmed in a shocking manner." She said that Germany needs "an offensive to promote religious tolerance among young Muslims."

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However social anthropologist Werner Schiffauer urged caution when interpreting the results. He told the daily newspaper Frankfurter Rundschau that "anti-democratic attitudes were equally common among Muslims and Germans (sic)," adding that it could not be concluded that Islam encourages anti-democratic tendencies. Leaders of groups representing the Turkish community and Muslims in Germany also urged caution in interpreting the results.

In concluding that 6 percent of Muslims in Germany have violent tendencies, the study appears to contradict to some extent the findings of Germany's domestic intelligence agency, the Office for the Protection of the Constitution, which monitors Islamist activity in the country. According to its 2006 report, there are currently around 32,000 Islamists in Germany who pose a potential security threat. That figure represents slightly more than 1 percent of the around 3 million Muslims who live in the country.

The Interior Ministry under Schäuble has sparked a series of controversies in recent months. Schäuble was the subject of heated criticism in July of this year when he appeared to suggest in a SPIEGEL interview (more...) that the targeted killing of terrorists might have to be considered. Schäuble's opponents have condemned him for attempting to constantly stretch the limits of what is acceptable under Germany's constitution in the fight against terror.

Other controversial positions Schäuble has promoted recently include taking terrorists into preventive custody, deploying the German army in domestic operations and searching suspects' computers online without their knowledge.


The NAZI Party started off as a tiny minority, they should have polled what is left of Germany's Jewish population to determine how many want a violent overthrow of the government.
Sooner or later they are going to have to do something to combat all this hatred. I don't know the right answer, but I do know how this happened. During the 50s and 60s, Germany was a nice little semi-capitalistic nation(in spite of all those German rules and regulations), with little welfare state socialism. But by the mid to late 60s the State had built itself into the Nanny State, with all sorts of programs and taxes needed to pay for all of this.

Further, there were not enough of a work force to fill in during the boom of the 50s and 60s, so they had to import from the outside. Enter Turkey. And the Turks were more than willing to take up the slack. However, they were considered only workers and just temporary. Temporary soon became permanent and stil they werel treated like outsiders, so they lived under a cloud of 'them against us' mentality.

Also, add to the equation the fact that women far outnumbered men, as a result of the war, and several hundred thousand women wound up marrying GI Joe, and leaving for the US. I can tell you that the numbers were staggering, because my home town of Columbia SC, is chock full of German and Japanese women(to a lesser degree), who married soldiers and settled down outside Fort Jackson. I would not be surprised if the total number, over the years exceeded more than one million women leaving Germany.

That meant that a large part of the breeding population was leaving, and another breeding population, Muslims, were replacing them. This could only come to a bad end eventually.

I don't know what the Krauts are going to do about this, but they will have to do something soon. As the saying goes, "You can pay me now, or you can pay me later." And guess which of the two choices will cost the most?
Only six percent of the Muslims in Germany would support violence in the name of Islam? That's 94% of the Muslims against violence? That's dissapointing, considering that 100% of the Christians in this forum prop up violence in the name of their idol. I hope the number will rise, you can't counter violence with the peacefulness of 94% of its victims. Europe must wake up, and we need to destroy Israel since we have nothing better to do.
The difference is that we are only wishing for violence against the 6% of Islamic nutcases, the other 94% can live in peace. Islamic fundamentalists wish violence on all infidels.
I believe you must not use the "we". You made your stance on Muslims quite clear in the past, you despise all of them. BTW, looks as if your war of terror rather kills the 94% and thereby increases the 6%, but that's its purpose, isn't it?
I would have taken the same approach had nutcase Christian warriors started attacking innocent people.
This particular nutcase attacked the innocent people of Iraq, who had neither terrorists nor WMD.

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How did you approach that?
Where did you find that AWFUL attempt at Photoshopping?
I think it's funny myself. Imagine,Germans in 2007 having a foreign religious group inside their own nation who bought what Hitler was selling before he dreamed it up?

The only difference is,Muslims don't give a big rat's as.s for German paganism,either. That leaves Germans little to hope for with these folks when they get bold.
You should always check the original closely...

is it 6% or 40% who support use of force in defense of Islamic World?

Quote:Knapp 40 Prozent der muslimischen Befragten halten "physische Gewalt als Reaktion auf die Bedrohung des Islams durch den Westen für legitim".

Sounds like 40% to me...

Original Article from Spiegel
mv Wrote:You should always check the original closely...

is it 6% or 40% who support use of force in defense of Islamic World?

Quote:Knapp 40 Prozent der muslimischen Befragten halten "physische Gewalt als Reaktion auf die Bedrohung des Islams durch den Westen für legitim".

Sounds like 40% to me...

Original Article from Spiegel
mv, that's very advanced political German, even I as native speaker don't really know how to interpret that sentence. "Physische Gewalt" and "Bedrohung" can mean anything in the contest. I'm sure if I started a poll here asking whether you people would approve violence to defend America against Islam, 100% of you would. Just go and look some threads of the waterboarding issue up if you like to know more. I guess a lot of Muslims see the West as the ones who bomb their villages and are responsible for the Islamic suicide terrorism as well. Actually, you are, and they have every right to defend themselves against you terrorists.
How do you like this figure from the English translation Warbicycle linked above?
Quote:...the authors concluded that the vast majority of Muslims in Germany reject religiously motivated terrorism and violence: Some 92 percent of respondents agreed with the statement that terrorist acts in the name of Islam were a serious sin and an insult to Allah...
Seems your agenda has no place for this fact. :lol: Go on and hate them, we don't. We welcome our Muslim friends to Europe, do you hear me Palladin?