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Quote:Coping with the Loss of Human Capital

Germany's Federal Statistics Office results show that the number of Germans moving abroad rocketed to 155,290 last year, which equaled levels last experienced in the 1940s during the chaotic aftermath of the Second World War. Most of the emigrants consisted of management consultants, doctors, dentists, scientists and lawyers; the country’s highest-qualified citizens. More than 18,000 German workers left for Switzerland last year, with the U.S. being the second most popular destination, followed by Austria.

Im Jahr 2003 hat die deutsche Regierung registriert 127.000 Fälle von Deutschen ins Ausland gehen, und 150.000 Deutsche verließ Deutschland im Jahr 2004, den höchsten Wert seit 1940. Kein Grund zur Sorge, viele schlecht ausgebildete Muslime nehmen Sie Platz nach Hause zurück. Und die Juden lachen, wie Deutschland und Europa werden außerhalb Europas.

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In 2003, the German government registered 127,000 cases of Germans moving abroad, and 150,000 Germans left Germany in 2004, the highest figure since 1940. No reason for concern, many poorly educated Muslims are taking your place back home. And the Jews laugh as Germany and Europe become non-European.
Yup, Q left. It seems as though he doesn't have any desire to return.

-S
Building Neuer Ersatz Deutschland Reich in S-E Asia, a worthy task in itself...
OK,is it fair to think this is the start of an emigration of ethnic Germans out due to lack of economic opportunities? Germany doesn't create tons of new jobs or anything.

I think it may be too early to say,but if this trend continues,Germany will see her best and brightest somewhere else.
Golly gee whiz, if I were a German doctor, I wonder where I'd want to work?

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Actually, it sounds like the bulk of them are headed to Britain. I wonder if the Germans will eventually end up outsourcing their health care to (from?) India? Lots of Indian docs coming here as well ... I've read it's someting close to 30-40% (but that may just be recruiting hype). I wonder how Germany does it's 'recruiting' in light of it's less than stellar opportunities? :?
I find it hard to believe that "Q" or the Stroller has not already seen this thread. I wonder what they think of this?
"Q" is probably recovering from a drunken stupor; he actually wrote that at the time of the fall of East Germany its economy was stronger than the Canadian economy.
What do you get when you cross an East German with a West German?

An arrogant unemployed individual.
What's the point of bothering nuts with reality? There are too many doctors, lawyers, dentists and management consultants in Germany, google for some statistics comparing their density in industrialized nations. Anybody wants to become a doc or dentists, don't ask me why. Dream of status or so. Then they have to work for some Euro 3,000 a month in 24 hour shifts in hospitals or so for years, before they can establish their own businesses for hundreds of thousands of credit in a market thats already spilling over, and facing mighty insurances which need to save money because healthcare is too expensive. Had a girlfriend once whose both parents were docs, papa the boss of the surgery on our hospital, mama had a business of her own, some artificial kidney stuff, washing blood or so. She studied medicine too, bright young lady and rightfully pretty arrogant. Went pale seeing my tax declaration, more than her mama and papa combined, and I didn't have to sweat about responsibilities for life and health. I don't think a high education automatically translates in much money. Jesus, the five or six years alone they study are enough to make the funds you need to retire.

mr_yak,
how can you be proud about such statistics? You're American and you are no doc? Welcome our German docs ripping you of.
quadrat Wrote:Anybody wants to become a doc ..

Sure quad, but do you want just anybody cutting you open when you need a surgical repairs?


quadrat Wrote:mr_yak,
how can you be proud about such statistics? You're American and you are no doc? Welcome our German docs ripping you of.

Where does pride come into it quad? We compensate docs well in this country ... as does Britain ... as does just about any other industrialized western country other than your native land. The folks with brains that actually know what they're doing are leaving. What part of that don't you get? ... and the subsequent vaccum will eventually be filled with Turks ... so I hope you trust them with sharp objects. Wink1
mr_yak Wrote:Where does pride come into it quad? We compensate docs well in this country ... as does Britain ... as does just about any other industrialized western country other than your native land. The folks with brains that actually know what they're doing are leaving. What part of that don't you get? ... and the subsequent vaccum will eventually be filled with Turks ... so I hope you trust them with sharp objects. Wink1

Not to worry Yak, "Q" is living in Thailand, and will not be returning to Faterland, home of super people. He is already relying on slanty eyed surgeons. 8)
FYI,we have tons of Indian and Arab doctors already in the USA. Close to 30% of the staffs in East Tennessee are 1 or the other and I imagine it's higher outside the CSA areas.
Well, first of all, the German text is extremely poorly written, WarBicycle probably created it with a translation program to make it look "authentic".

Yet again, we have an interesting article with a moronic opening comment, inevitably adding WarHeini's beloved Muslims. :lol:

I suspected as much, which is why I didn't bother reading it earlier.
stroll Wrote:Yet again, we have an interesting article with a moronic opening comment, inevitably adding WarHeini's beloved Muslims. :lol:

That IS interesting because I would figure that a good hunk of German 'replacement' doctors are probably Hindu ...
I personally know doctors who left Germany for Switzerland. I understand that for many people emigrating is the only option to escape the insanity that's going on in many parts of Europe.

In Berlin, those on welfare have outnumbered those who pay taxes. Need any more explanations? 100 tax payers in Berlin must finance 250 jobless persons, pensioners, kids, students... But although the state often takes more than half of their incomes, the money is not enough: The city is receiving 8 Billion bucks from the 1M tax payers, but has to dispense 27 Billion to the 1M on welfare.

That's pure madness. At the same time, they keep enlarging the underclass by letting more people immigrate into the country, mostly useless unqualified persons who increase the number of welfare recipients. So you have a decreasing number of skilled workers who have to pay for ever more no-goods. But the money doesn't come out of nothing, so the state keeps taking more and more from those few workers, until they've all emigrated, and what's left is a Balkan-like chaos.
Your doom & gloom rhetoric is misrepresenting and misleading.

Berlin has 15.6% unemployment, and pensions, for example, are not financed on a city, but a federal level, schools and universities do not fall into the "welfare" category - just to point out the most obvious misconceptions here.
Wink1
stroll Wrote:Your doom & gloom rhetoric is misrepresenting and misleading.

Berlin has 15.6% unemployment, and pensions, for example, are not financed on a city, but a federal level, schools and universities do not fall into the "welfare" category - just to point out the most obvious misconceptions here.
Wink1

Good Lord! During the Great Depression, unemployment rates were usually somewhere between 15% to 25%. You guys are really "on the margin" aren't you?
John L Wrote:
stroll Wrote:Your doom & gloom rhetoric is misrepresenting and misleading.

Berlin has 15.6% unemployment, and pensions, for example, are not financed on a city, but a federal level, schools and universities do not fall into the "welfare" category - just to point out the most obvious misconceptions here.
Wink1

Good Lord! During the Great Depression, unemployment rates were usually somewhere between 15% to 25%. You guys are really "on the margin" aren't you?

Yeah I saw that too ... but what struck me more was that's the unemployment rate in a large city where you usually see the most opportunities ... it makes you wonder what the stats are in the more 'deprived' areas ... Shock
John L Wrote:Good Lord! During the Great Depression, unemployment rates were usually somewhere between 15% to 25%. You guys are really "on the margin" aren't you?
Your making the same mistake here as you do when you confuse weather with climate in the global warming debate. S1
It's your own statistic Stroll! :roll: And are you saying that employment rates are generally better for rural areas than large cities? What do you base that on?

With a quoted overall national rate of about 9%, actually the more I read, it sounds like things really suck in large German cities ...

Quote:At one job fair in the city of Essen, where the unemployment rate is closer to 20 per cent, more than 1,000 German tradespeople crowded into a convention centre to talk to representatives of Canadian companies.
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