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If what our government tells us about Iran supplying weapons to Iraq terrorists is accurate,why wouldn't we be assisting the Iranian Kurds? We wouldn't need to give them much of anything,they use Soviet small arms ,but wouldn't it be easy to insert a handful of American operators and use our vertical envelopment skills to do serious harm to Iran?

The Kurds know the area,we could simply dispatch as many HiMars shells as the idiots are willing to take to desist from nefarious conduct in Iraq,then we stop.



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Terrorist organization attacking P.J.A.K and P.K.K are sister organizations. Due to both terrorist groups have killed many Kurds in Iran and Turkey, they have very limited support from their fellow Kurds in those regions, and have to operate from bases outside of Iran and Turkey.
Over 80% of the explosives and weapons captured from P.K.K terrorist are traced to the U.S.A arm purchases, this fact has been verified by the USA. Looks like N. Iraq Peshmergas don't care who they sell their weapons to, as long as they make their money. A Peshmerga selling his weapon could report it stolen and get another weapon issued within two weeks. In the black markets of N. Iraq, anybody could purchase hand grenades and other explosives for the fraction of the cost of manufacturing it.
I don't see why USA should issue any weapons to these terrorist organizations, when they including Al Qaida could purchase these weapons at the fraction of their cost.
Kamil,

80% of the PKK weaponry is stolen from USA handouts to Iraqis? That was fricking Glock pistols dude! I doubt one Turk soldier has died from a pistol shot by a Kurd this year. What likely happened with those Glocks is they were sold for cash to the highest bidder and are owned by families in Kurdistan about now,but pistols aren't guerilla warfare weaponry,can't hit anyone 20' away.

They use AK's,mortars,RPGs,mines of varied sortjust like all global terrorists do.

As far as both groups being aligned,the article says they are. Myself,I would help the Iranian ones with our vertical envelopment potential,they have no need for small arms,no terrorists do,it's easier to buy Russian small arms than hamburgers.

$10 buys an AK in Africa.
If you do some research on the USA weapon purchases, you will see that they have purchased thousands of AK-47s, sniper rifles, machine guns and other Eastern Europeans weapons for distribution to the Peshmerga.
Glock Pistols, and these Eastern European weapons are some of the 180,000 weapons reported missing by the USA.
Kamil,

We've always armed our friends with Soviet small arms,but really,you seem to act like this Kurd-Turk thing is American driven all the sudden. That's patent nonsense.

The PKK does not need us to supply them Soviet small arms they are easy to get,there is an ancient Turk-Kurd problem and you ,like most Turks,want to deny it exists and act like this thing began in 2003.

The Kurds caused so much trouble in 1980 the Army had to overthrow the government to calm them down. I vividly recall that era. Bombs exploding every day in major Turk cities,the economy was collapsing and Reagan was afraid Turkey would fail as the southern anchor of NATO.

You think we armed them in 1980 too or just now?
Personally, I know that USA is not arming PKK. However there are so many stolen or misappropriated USA made or purchased weapons available in the Middle East for a very low cost that intentional arming of PJAK/PKK won't make any difference.
On top of that some dump Turk will say that since USA is arming PJAK/PKK why don't we arm Al Qaida.
By the way PKK problem become serious in Turkey after 1984. Most of the weapons used by PKK at that time were Eastern European. All the captured weapon caches were shipped to Afghanistan via CIA to be used against the Soviet soldiers and later were used against the USA troops.
Kamil Wrote:Personally, I know that USA is not arming PKK. However there are so many stolen or misappropriated USA made or purchased weapons available in the Middle East for a very low cost that intentional arming of PJAK/PKK won't make any difference.
On top of that some dump Turk will say that since USA is arming PJAK/PKK why don't we arm Al Qaida.
By the way PKK problem become serious in Turkey after 1984. Most of the weapons used by PKK at that time were Eastern European. All the captured weapon caches were shipped to Afghanistan via CIA to be used against the Soviet soldiers and later were used against the USA troops.

Leave out the "US made" part when you are equating the arms with 'cheap'. It is the Russian/Soviet arms that are so cheap, cost wise. An AK47 can be bought in Mogadishu for less than $15. Anybody can purchase an arms cache for little money now days, because there ar litterly millions of AK and SKS weapons flooding the world arms markets.