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The warmongering collectivist and ally of Islamofascism Putin further fuels the cold war, befouling the brave fight of American troopers against Al Queda. How much longer will the free world stand idle and do nothing about the torture of peace loving Christian people of Siberia, held under the heel of Russofascism?
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/10/...index.html
Quote:MOSCOW, Russia (AP) -- President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that the U.S. war in Iraq was a "pointless" battle against the Iraqi people, the latest jab at Washington from the increasingly confrontational Russian leader.

President Putin answered questions about Iraq and the Russian economy among others.

Speaking during an annual televised question-and-answer session, Putin was asked by a mechanic from the Siberian city of Novosibirsk for his thoughts on comments made several years ago by former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who suggested that Siberia had too many natural resources to belong to one country.

"I know that some politicians play with such ideas in their heads. This, in my view, is the sort of political erotica that might satisfy a person but hardly leads to a positive result," Putin responded.

"The best example of that are the events in Iraq -- a small country that can hardly defend itself and which possesses huge oil reserves. And we see what's going on there. They've learned to shoot there but they are not managing to bring order.

"One can wipe off a political map some tyrannical regime ... but it's absolutely pointless to fight with a people," he said. "Russia, thank God, isn't Iraq. It has enough strength and power to defend itself and its interests, both on its territory and in other parts of the world."

Putin opened the session by reeling off a string of statistics showing the improvement of Russia's economy in the seven years he has been in office. Much of the economic growth has been due to high world oil prices.

He also said the country's birth rate was the highest it has been in 16 years and the death rate the lowest since 1999.

Thursday's session -- the sixth Putin has participated in since coming to office in 2000, was broadcast live on state-controlled TV and radio stations. In past years, it has lasted several hours and consists of people from around the vast country asking the president selected questions mainly on bread-and-butter issues.

A sampling of questions listed on a Web site set up by the broadcasters ranged from concerns about salaries for public sector workers to the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi and environmental worries.

Putin, who is widely popular among Russians for the stability and relative prosperity he has brought to the country, has sought to use phone-ins along with tightly choreographed, lavish television coverage to project the image of a leader responding directly to voters' concerns.

Last year Putin answered more than 50 questions in a three-hour session. Correspondents from the state-run networks chose questioners from among small crowds in towns and cities around the vast country; it was impossible to tell whether most questions were arranged in advance or if questioners were coached.
Yeah, it's a very popular quotation of Maggie in the world of Russian internet and media.
:lol:
Honestly, can't find where and when it was pronounced. :roll:
quadrat Wrote:U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who suggested that Siberia had too many natural resources to belong to one country.
Under last investigations of russian scientists North American continent is a natural continuation of russian continental shelf. So...
bh Wrote:
quadrat Wrote:U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who suggested that Siberia had too many natural resources to belong to one country.
Under last investigations of russian scientists North American continent is a natural continuation of russian continental shelf. So...

..........so, that too should be part of Russia, right? Somehow I believe Russia legally sold it's interest in NA in the 19th century, did it not?

Incidentially, I thought Siberian land mass was part of the North American Continental shelf .................................. 8)

Oh, that's right, all land masses were once one land mass, called Pangaea. Is that the ancient word for Siberia?
OK, it was last anekdote from russian media I posted here...
I'm enjoying the polar ice cap rush because it shows how all mankind is just like this,in competition with each other to the extent of major war efforts killing millions to protect their lands,resources,etc.

Danes&Canadians are as avaricious as Russians and Americans. Let's not be silly,there will one day be a huge war effort to decide who owns this resource and I for one don't care who wins except for Russians. Albright is right in what she said,Russians already own more land than anyone on earth per capita.

EXCEPT Canadians and we like Canadians so we don't say things like that about them.
Palladin Wrote:Danes&Canadians are as avaricious as Russians and Americans.
Palladin, you forgot about Brits and their claims on Antarctica including South Pole - native british lands. :lol:
bh Wrote:
Palladin Wrote:Danes&Canadians are as avaricious as Russians and Americans.
Palladin, you forgot about Brits and their claims on Antarctica including South Pole - native british lands. :lol:

I suppose you have a link to this revelation, correct?
John L Wrote:
bh Wrote:
Palladin Wrote:Danes&Canadians are as avaricious as Russians and Americans.
Palladin, you forgot about Brits and their claims on Antarctica including South Pole - native british lands. :lol:

I suppose you have a link to this revelation, correct?

Sure, it's old history:

http://stinet.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getR...=ADA246472
http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/07/...60926.html
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Why should Putin and his rhetoric over Iran come as a surprise? Russian interest in Iran dates back to the Czars and their Trans-Caucasian politics. Further, have we lost memory of the Tehran Conference and Roosevelt's agreement with Stalin dividing that country (then known as Persia) into two "spheres of influence"? If the commissars expressed any consistency with the world view of the Czars, it came in terms of Great Russian aspirations in geopolitics! Further, the Iran card now represents an opportunity for greater pressure on those states in the Caucasus and the Asian steppes that have rejected Russian hegemony (read Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Turkmenistan. Besides, have we all forgotten the old chant: "It's all about oil". Here, that rationale is more than apt when one thinks about the on-again/off-again talk over pipelines. We fool ourselves mightily if we believe the Russians will act in a positive matter regarding Western concerns over Iranian policies. For goodness sakes, even in terms of business a nuclear Iran is but a Russian investment opportunity.

The more things change, the more they remain the same should be kept constantly in mind when discussing this subject.
Were you addressing me DR, or some other Ignoranus?
Quote:Sure, it's old history:

Well, bh, it's older than your sources imply by their reference to the "Antarctic Treaty" of 1959 (really an entire series of subsequent agreements flowing from the 1961 ratification by 12 nations, some with earlier political claims prior to the 1957-1958 International Geophysical Year that focused on Antarctica).

Here is the present situation:

http://www.scar.org/treaty/

Interestingly enough, political claims to Antarctica date back to the 19th century, and within that context it has always been US policy not to recognize a single one of them! The US was a signatory to the 1959 treaty but in signing it affirmed that it did not recognize any of the political claims then existing and as a matter of policy still does not. Even funnier, during the 1940s Argentina and the UK engaged in a "Stamp" war issuing postage illustrating their conflicting political claims!

Here are past pretensions as expression of present-day troublemakers:

http://www.statoids.com/uaq.html

Maybe these loons are betting on global warming! However, in the event of a catastrophic ice-melt there would be little surface on which to hoist a flag! [and yes, there are sufficient atavists who have found time to design flags].
Well, I like it a lot how Russia maneuvred itself to the centre of Middle East politics again, especially Persia, and knocked warmongering America and its ugly little ally Israel on the head. What's the probability now of attacking them Iran, though some here still have that wet dream? Russia shall sort out that alledged Persian nuclear weapons problem better than anybody else. Need a trip down memory lane? It's been always America furnishing other nationes with nukes, and never Russia.

drgonzaga,
amazing journey to Adam and Eve to explain Russian interests there, I'd however suggest to take a look at the map to find better reasons for their motivation. What did you say is America doing down there?
John inquired:

Quote:Were you addressing me DR, or some other Ignoramus?

Honestly, my observation had no specific "target", John--it is convoluted enough in the shotgun nature of the thread, Iran and Antarctica and then the aspirations of Danes, Brits and the international kitchen sink--other than a reminder on the nonsense over territorial scrambles reminiscent of 19th century geopolitics.

Besides, there is nothing mysterious about Putin...in fact he's as predictable as any other predatory politician. For example, he is now leaving the Russian presidency and has announced personal interest in the office of prime minister of the Russian Republic. Yet, did not everyone notice that suddenly he is delivering speeches on the expansion of the governing powers of the Duma? Similarly, these political claims to Antarctica are so much hot air that they have no interpretative possibilities other than as potential additions to the Global Warming syndrome.
The Q is on a Loki streak, once again!

Quote:Well, I like it a lot how Russia maneuvered itself to the centre of Middle East politics again

When has Russia not been playing mischief-maker in the Middle East? The humor comes from its capacity for delusion in the realm of technological competitor. No matter the number of Migs and missiles it sold as evidence of its economic achievements and international camaraderie, the strength proved illusory. One might conclude that in assisting the Iranians in their nuclear pretensions they are simply laying the foundations for a new Chernobyl! Such a possibility should scare the bejeezus out of any potential recipient of Russian largess.

Besides, Q, if we treat nations for their psychoses, then the Russian bear would forever lay on the couch of their own insecurities :lol:
OK, drago, I would say russian-british conflict in Persia started before manking realized requirement in oil. It started more than 200 years ago, it's a part of russian history, and even literature. I bet you know what I mean.
BTW, I'm surpised there are unclaimed territories in Antarctic. :lol: :lol: :lol:
But about predictability Putin you are too optimistic. I still can't understand his tactic about election 2008. I beleived Medvedev or Ivanov will be his protege, but it looks it was revulsive maneuver.
drgonzaga Wrote:John inquired:

Quote:Were you addressing me DR, or some other Ignoramus?

Honestly, my observation had no specific "target", John--it is convoluted enough in the shotgun nature of the thread, Iran and Antarctica and then the aspirations of Danes, Brits and the international kitchen sink--other than a reminder on the nonsense over territorial scrambles reminiscent of 19th century geopolitics.

Besides, there is nothing mysterious about Putin...in fact he's as predictable as any other predatory politician. For example, he is now leaving the Russian presidency and has announced personal interest in the office of prime minister of the Russian Republic. Yet, did not everyone notice that suddenly he is delivering speeches on the expansion of the governing powers of the Duma? Similarly, these political claims to Antarctica are so much hot air that they have no interpretative possibilities other than as potential additions to the Global Warming syndrome.

I thought this may be the truth here, that you were firing in the dark, in every direction, in order to see(pardon the pun) if you actually hit anything of note.

However, let me remind you that to do this you must first acquire a new hunting liscence, which will cover you should you hit any friendly critters without intending to do so. Sort of like a "get out of jail free" card, if you catch my 'drift'?

I just thought I would mention this next time you decide to take on all unsuspecting comers in the forseeable future. Wink1 S6
Well the grouse were taking wing willy-nilly and I was left wondering where the drivers were so I let the buckshot fly. Wink1

I was unaware that a license was needed in the pursuit of a brace upon a private estate. Never encountered such a requirement on the heather clad moors of Scotland! 8)