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Now, this is good news. About time.

Quote:U.S. and Russia sign pact to hunt for water on Mars, moon
Wed Oct 3, 2007 3:48pm EDT

By Michael Stott

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia and the United States, the world's great space powers, celebrated the eve of the first satellite launch 50 years ago with a pact to use Russian technology on NASA missions to seek water on the moon and Mars.

NASA administrator Michael Griffin signed the cooperation deal with his Russian counterpart at a ceremony on Wednesday at the U.S. embassy residence in Moscow attended by cosmonauts and astronauts and featuring a recorded greeting from space.....................
I dunno...

I sorta think everytime we cooperate with another country.. like the ISS.. they have huge delays and just hold us back.

I wish we'd do more on our own.. and keep the scientific and military applications to ourselves.
Pixiest Wrote:I dunno...

I sorta think everytime we cooperate with another country.. like the ISS.. they have huge delays and just hold us back.

I wish we'd do more on our own.. and keep the scientific and military applications to ourselves.

Personally, I'd rather see the private sector take the baton and run with it. But something tells me that there is more here than meets the eye. For instance, why didn't they sign an agreement with PRC, since they are now in the race to the moon? Could it be that the Russians see the future better than they are letting on?
I'm not sure how private industry could market water they found on the moon. So, why would they be interested?

Water on the moon would seem to be only of practical interest to those planning to build a base on the moon. Is that what this is all about? Or is it just a ploy to make the Chicoms nervous?
Quote:I sorta think everytime we cooperate with another country.. like the ISS.. they have huge delays and just hold us back.
If you remember Russia shouldered space missions when you had problems with Shuttle...

Though it looks like just a part of a broader international cooperation in space.
http://www.federalspace.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=2456
Quote:Online edition of India`s National Newspaper
Monday, Sep 24, 2007
ePaper

India, Russia mulling over moon mission
Vladimir Radyuhin
MOSCOW: India and Russia are discussing plans to send an unmanned mission to the moon and soft-land a mobile laboratory on its surface.
An agreement to undertake the ambitious joint lunar programme will be on the table when head of the Russian Space Agency Roskosmos Anatoly Perminov visits India this week to attend the 58th International Astronautical Congress in Hyderabad on September 24-28 and hold talks with ISRO Chairman G. Madhavan Nair.
India could provide a booster rocket and a lunar orbital module, while Russia would contribute the lunar mobile laboratory, Roskosmos deputy head Alexander Medvedchikov told Hindu The.
The Soviet Union delivered the world’s first unmanned rover, called Lunokhod, to the Moon in 1970 and 1973.
It explored the moon surface and sent pictures to earth. Russian spacecraft also photographed the moon and brought samples of lunar rock to earth several years before the United States landed man on the moon.
Next year India will launch its first lunar mission, Chandrayaan-1, which will circle the moon, but not land any module on its surface.
Under the India-Russia joint space programme, the two countries would launch a research satellite constructed by students early next year, Mr. Medvedchikov said.
Indian students are building the satellite, called Youth Sat, while Russian students are constructing scientific instruments for the mission, which will study the earth’s upper atmosphere.
The India-Russia joint project CORONAS-PHOTON provides for the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research to supply a low-energy gamma-ray telescope for a Russian spacecraft that will be launched before mid-2008 to study solar physics.
Mr. Medvedchikov said plans were in the pipeline for India to launch Russian GLONASS-M satellites on its GSLV platforms and to join Russia in developing the next generation GLONASS-K satellites for the Russian global navigation system.
Quote:Russaia-US Agree To Hunt For Water On Moon, Mars

Be vewy vewy quiet...






Still waiting on signs of intelligent life down here,
Ahk
jt Wrote:I'm not sure how private industry could market water they found on the moon. So, why would they be interested?

Water on the moon would seem to be only of practical interest to those planning to build a base on the moon. Is that what this is all about? Or is it just a ploy to make the Chicoms nervous?

Ahh, Ahh, Ahh. There is far more to this. Water is made up of oxygen and hydrogen. Oxygen is for breathing, and hydrogen is for energy. Water is the single most important molecule. without it colonizing and moving about in the solar system would be severly hampered.

There will be a HUGE market for water outside the earth's atmosphere.
There's a subplot - He3.

Wikipedia
Monsieur Le Tonk Wrote:There's a subplot - He3.

Wikipedia

Yes, I did not mention that because it was not the subject of the thread. However H3 is an important reason to get to the moon. But without H2O, remaining there permanently is much more difficult.

I suspect that there are Huge quantities of H2O on the Moon, much of it below the surface, covered with debris from inpactors , and not subject to the sun's heat. I could be wrong, but don't think so. the solar system is loaded with H2O, much of it floating around in the form of small comets.
Quote:I suspect that there are Huge quantities of H2O on the Moon, much of it below the surface, covered with debris from inpactors , and not subject to the sun's heat. I could be wrong, but don't think so. the solar system is loaded with H2O, much of it floating around in the form of small comets.
It's just, such comets evaporate on impact and the thin atmosphere can't hold water vapor.
quadrat Wrote:
Quote:I suspect that there are Huge quantities of H2O on the Moon, much of it below the surface, covered with debris from inpactors , and not subject to the sun's heat. I could be wrong, but don't think so. the solar system is loaded with H2O, much of it floating around in the form of small comets.
It's just, such comets evaporate on impact and the thin atmosphere can't hold water vapor.

That's true. However, if the sun is not directly falling on the H2O, it will freeze and settle to the surface. As long as the sun does not hit it again, it will remain there, until it is added to, or covered by debris from impactors.