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Quote:SCIENTISTS have created eerie zombie dogs, reanimating the canines after several hours of clinical death in attempts to develop suspended animation for humans.
US scientists have succeeded in reviving the dogs after three hours of clinical death, paving the way for trials on humans within years.

This article is interesting. If scientists are able to do this with dogs, the possibilities are good for using this technique with humans.
Great, when Hillary dies, they'll bring her back.
John, the article headline calls them "zombie" dogs, which sounds like quite a turnoff when you consider applying this technique to humans. But the article said the dogs suffered no detectable brain damage.

I wonder if there were any personality changes in the dogs. Would they still be friendly and wag their tails when petted? Well, come to think of it, if they had any sense, they would bite the hands of researchers who subjected them to such horrendous procedures. So I guess it would be hard to tell.
I thought that they already had. S1
What I found interesting is the picture of the snarling dog in the article. It is obvious that the paper editors want the public to have a negative outlook on this. That's my first opinion.

I think we will have to get to gene manipulation in order to use this technique over extended periods though.
is there a difference between "clinically dead" and just "dead"?
ghoullio Wrote:is there a difference between "clinically dead" and just "dead"?

There probably is now. S6
well, why didn't the article simply say dead?

still alive, but no brain waves? is that dead?

just curious.
Clinical death is simply a medical term which means-" The end of life; the permanent cessation of vital bodily functions, as manifested in humans by the loss of heartbeat, the absence of spontaneous breathing, and brain death."

Just regular Death means "DEAD" as in real life. They both mean the same, except one if referred to by the mecical profession. I guess that makes them appear to be smarter and more exact than just the single word the you, me, and Joe sixpack use.

How is that one?
Well, to put me on par with the eggheads in the medical field who have an ego, I am going to use clinically dead.
just wondering if they were using terms like "clinically dead" to worm their way around a fraudulent experiment.

if Rover was truly dead, then this is indeed amazing.

however, if clinically dead means no Brain waves or no heart beats or something mundane, then it seems like...well, junk.

just sayin S5

i heard people say Teri Schiavo was "clinically dead" before she was starved to "death"...
What true philosophers we are, we are arguing the true meaning of death. Shock
Yeah, I know I'm ugly... I said to a bartender, 'Make me a zombie.' He said 'God beat me to it.'
-Rodney Dangerfield
Goddamn zombie dogs are things not meant to be trifled with. Something is going to go mad crazy and it will be the umbrella corporation all over again. Scientists need to understand some things are not cool! Zombie dogs are no good.
Quote:Zombie dogs are no good.
How do you know? :lol:
StereoMike Wrote:Goddamn zombie dogs are things not meant to be trifled with. Something is going to go mad crazy and it will be the umbrella corporation all over again. Scientists need to understand some things are not cool! Zombie dogs are no good.

They are really not zombie dogs. They have simply had their systems slowed down, and their brains put on hold long enough to allow for it to remain truely alive long enough to be brought back to consciousness again.

This has huge implications for saving patients, who need to be put under long enough to have corrective surgery applied.

Basically, it is like anesthesia, only with a new twist. I see a good future for it's use with humans in the future.
That's how it starts john!!! Someone is going to become a zombie one day! And then I'll be laughing from my bunker!

creepy. like "Flatliners"?

ever see that movie?
never saw it. but I did see all those George Romero movies.
Mike, I remarked above that the editors of the paper that reported on the proceedure inserted that snarling dog into the article. And it should be obvious that the picture has absolutely no relationship to the real story. That dog is apparently a member of a sled team in a cold climate such as upper Canada or Alaska. Sled dogs are highly compteitive and observe the pack mentality, constantly jockeying and fighting for position within the pack order.

Dogs, and later humans will not act in the manner protraited in the picture. If nothing else, it will be just the opposite. Now tell yourself, are you allowing your impression to be influenced by the picture? I'll bet it is.

The proceedure, if successful in humans, could save countless lives that are required to go under the knife. the principle is almost exactly the same as that of people who fall into near freezing water, and drown, only to be brought back to life later. The brain shuts down and does not die, because it is so cold. Same thing here.

I suspect that you are allowing your built in adhorence to the unknown, PLUS the dog's picture to determine your attitude.
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