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It seems that the recent Chinese test of the satellite killer got the Indian worried too.

China missile worries India

This actually makes sense; at this time Chinese space capabilities are limited and do not YET threaten the US satellite system. However, knocking down very few Indian satellites should not be too hard.

So, are we to see a new space race, with several countries developing killer satellites and satellite killers?

In addition to the US and China, India, Russia and Japan may be the players before long.
China wanted us recently to sign a treaty agreeing not to conduct military activity in space. They are betting they can't compete with us in space so want to scare us into stopping ourselves from going to space. The fact that they have to steal our technology should tell us this. This is why Bush refuses to agree to this treaty.
Independents4Bush Wrote:China wanted us recently to sign a treaty agreeing not to conduct military activity in space. They are betting they can't compete with us in space so want to scare us into stopping ourselves from going to space. The fact that they have to steal our technology should tell us this. This is why Bush refuses to agree to this treaty.
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Well. It remains to see what will come out of the Chinese space program.

But I think in a period of 20 years China may be a major player in space along with Russia and the US. They have the resources since they just have to tap a little share of the increasing tax incomes.

/track_snake
If we are to enter a space race with China we need to start protecting our technologies from foreign espionage. The Chinese are stealing many of our secrets. I think it's covered in the book Enemies by Bill Gertz.
Independents4Bush Wrote:If we are to enter a space race with China we need to start protecting our technologies from foreign espionage. The Chinese are stealing many of our secrets. I think it's covered in the book Enemies by Bill Gertz.
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The Chinese are what the Japs were in the 1960'ies....

/track_snake
mv Wrote:It seems that the recent Chinese test of the satellite killer got the Indian worried too.

China missile worries India

This actually makes sense; at this time Chinese space capabilities are limited and do not YET threaten the US satellite system. However, knocking down very few Indian satellites should not be too hard.

So, are we to see a new space race, with several countries developing killer satellites and satellite killers?

In addition to the US and China, India, Russia and Japan may be the players before long.

This makes good sense. India and PRC are going to be the principal competitors, and antagonists, for the second step on the ladder. My bet is on India in the end.

Incidentially, India has not forgotten it's having it's nose rubbed in the dirt, by PRC in the 1950s over border disputes in Himalayas.
track_snake Wrote:
Independents4Bush Wrote:If we are to enter a space race with China we need to start protecting our technologies from foreign espionage. The Chinese are stealing many of our secrets. I think it's covered in the book Enemies by Bill Gertz.
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The Chinese are what the Japs were in the 1960'ies....

/track_snake

I disagree. The PRC is where the Nips were in the 1980s. I suspect the 'Big Fall' following the 2008 Olympics. If not, I am going to send Stratfor a nice little package, as a thank you to them. Wink1
Well, One expert thinks that China is winning this race.

Quote:The Chinese are beating the U.S. in the new "space race," a military strategy expert says. Australia-born defense analyst Greg Copley claims Communist China is working fast towards controlling space with its weapons technology and may even set up the first military base on the moon.

Greg Copley, president of the International Strategic Studies Association (ISSA), says the United States may have won the race to put a man on the moon decades ago; but the Communist Chinese, he believes, have clearly moved ahead of America in the military space race. One recent indication of that, he notes, was China's successful testing of a satellite-killing missile earlier this month.

China's military space program has "very much been speeded up by the transfer of U.S. technology under President Clinton" to the People's Republic of China, Copley observes. That communist regime has since been "investing heavily in space capabilities," he says, "including permanent moon basing, which would enable space-based weapons to neutralize strategic ballistic missiles -- and, of course, satellites."

China has definitely moved into the lead when it comes to the military use of outer space, the ISSA spokesman says. The Chinese have set a goal of putting a military base on the moon within the next decade, he points out, and they are working on other space-warfare projects and technologies as well, such as laser-based systems.

The Chinese are serious about controlling space, Copley asserts. And China's ability to get into space with manned space systems and to get onto the moon with a military base would give that nation a serious strategic advantage over others, he says.
U.S. halts China space ventures

Quote:The Bush administration has suspended plans to develop space ventures with China, including joint exploration of the moon, in reaction to Beijing's Jan. 11 test of an anti-satellite weapon that left orbiting debris threatening U.S. and foreign satellites.
National Aeronautics and Space Administration spokesman Jason Sharp said the weapon test undermined an agreement reached between President Bush and Chinese President Hu Jintao during an April summit.
"We believe China's development and testing of such weapons is inconsistent with the constructive relationship that our presidents have outlined, including on civil space cooperation," Mr. Sharp said.

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I was reading this and thinking about satellite counter-measures and was wondering if maybe I should start tracking Martin Marietta and ... holly flippin' arsels!!! I'm way behind the curve!!! S4 Looks like they've about quadrupled in the last three years. Apparently somebody has been taking this stuff seriously! Sure somebody's going to cite the Iraq war but really ... 400%!!! I think you would be hard pressed to attribute ALL that just to their 'terrestrial' operations.