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Why do these people keep trying this stuff? Their religion is entirely innocent of enciting them,right?



http//kdka.com/local/local_story_309213539.html
Ohh, you are such a negative person Patrick. What are we going to do with you? Shock Wink1
Oh,I'm only negative relative to evil,I'm quite positive if this were a faith board discussing Christ and eternity with Him and the fact that ultimately He controls human history.

But,this is politics and I am pretty convinced that Islam is behind this international terrorism stuff in various ways,not "abberrantions from the religion".

I just don't accept in 2006 that people in the millions can so misunderstand a basic religion's teachings,which appears to me to be the line of Muslims who are not terrorists,these guys just aren't Muslims.
Everyone can read today.

Why aren't any other religion's adherents doing this stuff every day?
According to their names one is Christian and the other one is Hindu.

Here is another story that you can blame to Moslems
Benjamin Nathan Moseley and Russell Lee DeBusk Jr., both 19-year-old students at Birmingham-Southern College. Matthew Lee Cloyd, a 20-year-old junior at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, also was arrested.

Are Benjamin Nathan Moseley, Russel Lee DeBusk and Matthew Lee Cloyd Moslem names. Perhaps the article mispelled the name Moseley and it is actually Moselem S2

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3 students charged in Ala. church fires
By Jay Reeves, Associated Press Writer | March 9, 2006

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. --For weeks, church congregants in rural Alabama were on high alert, eager to find out who was burning down their churches. The answer, authorities now say, was three college students who took a prank too far.

Agents capped a month of tedious police work Wednesday when they arrested the three friends in connection with nine church arsons that had spread fear through rural Alabama.

According to court filings, the first arsons started as "a joke" that got out of hand. The other fires were apparently an attempt to throw off the massive arson investigation.

Jim Parker, pastor of Ashby Baptist Church, one of the churches burned, said he heard that the suspects were promising students from good families.

"We really are concerned about them as people," he said. "I would just like to know what they were thinking."

Two of the suspects were identified as Benjamin Nathan Moseley and Russell Lee DeBusk Jr., both 19-year-old students at Birmingham-Southern College. Matthew Lee Cloyd, a 20-year-old junior at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, also was arrested.

Dr. David Pollick, president of Birmingham-Southern College, said in statement that Moseley and DeBusk were suspended and banned from campus. He called the arson attacks "mindless cruelty."

"The entire community of Birmingham-Southern College -- students, faculty, and staff -- pledges to aid in the rebuilding of these lost churches through our resources and our labor," he said.

Acquaintances said DeBusk and Moseley were both amateur actors who were known as pranksters and dreamed of becoming stars. They performed in campus plays and appeared in a documentary film.

The arson attacks apparently began when the three got into Cloyd's sport utility vehicle for a night of deer shooting in Bibb County on Feb. 2, according to Walker Johnson, a federal agent who investigated the fires.

Moseley told agents that the three set fire to five Baptist churches in the early morning hours of Feb. 3. A witness quoted Cloyd as saying Moseley did it "as a joke and it got out of hand."

Moseley also told agents the four fires in west Alabama were set four days later "as a diversion to throw investigators off," an attempt that "obviously did not work," the court papers said.

A judge ordered the three held until a hearing Friday.

Investigators had said earlier that they were looking for two men seen in a dark SUV near a few of the church fires, and documents show Cloyd drove a green Toyota SUV.

Tire tracks found at the scene of six church fires allegedly matched the type of tires on Cloyd's Toyota: a BF Goodrich All Terrain model.
Kamil,

No one has ever said there is NOT evil outside the Islamic faith,there is and always has been and always will be. Read some Genesis for early examples.

We have always had crime in America,we have not always had a religion warring on America.

I don't care what these boy's names are,they are almost certainly Islamic terrorists,there is no logic to a Hindu and a Christian teaming up to explode a football stadium in America,but there is for 2 Muslims from northern India in this deacde from the extremist Islamic viewpoint.
They are born here and are American citizens. Actually, one of them is from Morgan Hill, California, the area that I'm very familiar with. They have a fairly large Hindu Community there.
Kamil,

OK,I still do not believe there is any logic for a Hindu and a Christian to team up and explode a football stadium in Pittsburgh. It has never been attempted,why would 2 men of disparate religions from inside the USA do this other than if they were extremist Muslims?
Achilles Wrote:Kamil,

OK,I still do not believe there is any logic for a Hindu and a Christian to team up and explode a football stadium in Pittsburgh. It has never been attempted,why would 2 men of disparate religions from inside the USA do this other than if they were extremist Muslims?

I for one still do not believe that these two men were trying to blow up anything. I like to wait for clear evidence before I pass my judgment on them.
Kamil,

That's fair,I jumped to conclusions,but explosive residue coupled with their conduct has them at $1 million bail,the judge sure is worried about them.
Also many bet that Moslems were placing dirty bombs in football stadiums.

U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie, held a meeting on Friday, Oct. 20, 2006, to announce that federal authorities have charged Jake J. Brahm, a 20-year-old grocery store clerk from Wauwatosa, Wis. with making a hoax threat that said seven football stadiums across the nation would be targeted by terrorists with radiological "dirty bombs" this weekend. Leslie Wiser, special agent in charge of the Federal Bureau of Investigation for New Jersey, and Michael Hammer, chief of the Terrorism Unit of the U.S. Attorney's office, also participated in the news conference.

Palladin, how much you want to bet that these two students are Moslems?
Kamil,

That's not the story,the story of a hoax is a criminal enterprise,the 2 Indians caught casing a stadium with explosives in their car are terrorists at war with America.

Your repetitive attempts to equate standard criminals with Islam's quest to control America(and by proxy the entire world) is not impressing me and I doubt anyone else here.

If guilty ,place the hoaxter in jail,if guilty,execute the evil Muslim "holy warriors". That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Please try not to judge and label people too quickly. Reaching into conclussions on any story that appears to make Moslems look bad, actually lowers your own credibility.
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FBI: Heinz Field break-in not terrorism Tue Nov 7, 5:40 PM ET

Two college students charged with trying to break into Heinz Field last weekend were pranksters, not terrorists, the FBI said.

"This appears to be two kids who did something stupid, and it came on the heels of the threat last month to blow up football stadiums," FBI Special Agent Jeff Killeen said Monday. "Any suspicions that were raised concerning terrorism were addressed and dismissed."

Carnegie Mellon students Sudeep Paul, 21, and Anand Durvasula, 20, remained jailed Tuesday, unable to post $1 million bond each. Police said they were caught trying to climb into the stadium about 2 a.m. Sunday, 14 hours before the Pittsburgh Steelers played the Denver Broncos.

Authorities believe the men were trying to sneak into the stadium so Paul, a film student, could videotape Durvasula for a homemade music video.

A city magistrate imposed the high bail because the action by the students triggered a response by the Joint Terrorism Task Force, which includes federal, state and city officials. Bond could be reduced at a preliminary hearing Thursday. It was not immediately clear if the students had attorneys.

Paul, of Woodbury, N.Y., is charged by city police with conspiracy while Durvasula, of Morgan Hill, Calif., who allegedly climbed the fence before the men were caught, was charged with conspiracy and criminal trespass.

Killeen said the NFL and federal authorities had been on heightened alert since a Wisconsin grocery clerk allegedly hatched a hoax last month threatening terrorist attacks on stadiums.
Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061107/ap_o...m_break_in
Kamil,

I already admitted I may have jumped to conclusion about specific guilt. However,knowing modern Islam and America,IF they were guilty,they would have been Muslims and I think you understand that.

Though you appear more concerned with the evil crusaders than you do your co-religionists chopping people's heads off daily across the globe and yelling allah akbar!
Achilles Wrote:Kamil,
the 2 Indians caught casing a stadium with explosives in their car are terrorists at war with America.
One day after you said you jumped the gun, you come up with the conclussion that explosives were found in the car of these students. S2

The explosive that dog smelled was from the matches Paul used to light his pipe :lol:
No,the original article stated the cops found explosives,I made up no facts,I just concluded without patience they were guilty. They would have been Muslims if they had been.