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This is actually funny.
http//www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20876,20418606-25377,00.html
Very amusing and very on point.
Da guy has da goods.
Regardless of political leanings, a majority of Americans will vote "win the war" in the confines of the voting booth.

Hopefully most American voters know Hillary is a crook in their heart of hearts.
Ken
I must confess that I did not see anything really funny there. I thought it to be 'spot on'.
John..."spot on" is a very good definition of funny.

I usually spell fun,,,"$fun".
Ken
I think many of Bush's policies will probably be adopted by the next president, but I doubt the next president will be a Republican, unless Rudy Giuliani or John McCain are nominated.

I'm becoming increasingly certain that, ultimately, the president has no control over the policies that are adopted by the United States. This country has a will of its own and our leaders only compete to be spokespersons.
Anonymous24 Wrote:I think many of Bush's policies will probably be adopted by the next president, but I doubt the next president will be a Republican, unless Rudy Giuliani or John McCain are nominated.

I'm becoming increasingly certain that, ultimately, the president has no control over the policies that are adopted by the United States. This country has a will of its own and our leaders only compete to be spokespersons.

Anon, when I state this, you can take it to the bank. Here goes: John McCain will NEVER be the nominee OR President. His only chance would be to switch parties. The majority of Republicans AND Independents, such as myself, actually LOATHE him.

He's an ASS. If he Should switch parties, all that is necessary is to add a "jack" to the "ASS" part, and he is home free. Wink1 :mrgreen:
Anony, you just tripped over something real. Our President DOES get elected by representing the majority of American voters, (well at least more or less D )

John L....I don't know about your bank statement. What if Hildegard gets the demo nod?

...Vote independent or Libertarian and throw away your vote?

(heh, I will spend more time on the ranch and in our own plane rather than commercial lol
Bean
KenBean Wrote:Anony, you just tripped over something real. Our President DOES get elected by representing the majority of American voters, (well at least more or less S2 )

John L....I don't know about your bank statement. What if Hildegard gets the demo nod?

...Vote independent or Libertarian and throw away your vote?

(heh, I will spend more time on the ranch and in our own plane rather than commercial :lol:
Bean

Another tactician, eh Ken?
I keep identifying with the old man in "Farnhams Freehold". Some of us old farts have to be around to help keep perspectives.
Ken
Quote:Anony, you just tripped over something real. Our President DOES get elected by representing the majority of American voters, (well at least more or less )

That's true, but circumstances could easily change the impetus that got Bush elected and his policies supported. For instance, many people believe that without Bush, there wouldn't be tax cuts. Not true. People wanted tax cuts because of the surplus. If Gore had been elected, he would have been pressured into effecting those tax cuts, or else people would have voted in heavy Republican majorities in Congress. Now that there's a gaping deficit, the next president is going to have to raise taxes... assuming Bush himself isn't forced into it when the Dems retake Congress.
Anon,

You're exactly correct. US policy has substantially been the same forever. It's because the majority of people desire it so.

Bush's policy of pre -emption or "trying to cram democracy" down their throats is an old policy here.

The over seas hatred for Bush is truthfully a hatred of the people of the USA. If Gore were in office,Gore would have followed the majority will here as well. Then,he would have been burnt in effigy.

Are there legitimate concerns about what Bush is achieving and could Kerry or Gore done better? Of course there are,but that's a debate between brothers.

I agree with you,most likely a democrat will rule and will continue the same fundamental policies,though I pray they are much harsher than GW has been with our foes.
Where I disagree with Anon is in his thought process. Why is it ALWAYS 'raise taxes' with the Left? Why? Have you ever heard of cutting back on the spending? Why can't you folks just do that? Granted, it is harder to accomplish, but it is the BEST solution. Raising taxes should be the LAST thing to consider.
But John, are there even 15 people within the Beltway of DC who honestly believe and vote to drastically cut spending, to slash lots of budgets? Nah. I agree that cutting spending is far better than raising taxes, but nobody's listening.
Fit2BThaied Wrote:But John, are there even 15 people within the Beltway of DC who honestly believe and vote to drastically cut spending, to slash lots of budgets? Nah. I agree that cutting spending is far better than raising taxes, but nobody's listening.

That is why they should be removed via the ballot box.
When it comes to cutting programs, you have to take it by a case-by-case basis. For instance, it is clear most people don't like welfare much at all. But when it comes to things like education, the police, road building and uptake, people do not support cutting programs. People will always support spending more to build more schools, to train more police, to build more roads.
John,

I think cutting spending is the least likely. Raising taxes lowers revenue,so I don't understand why anyone would want to do it.

Anyone looking at current revenue streams on a bar graph would be foolish to raise taxes right now,the deficit is closing fast.
Palladin Wrote:John,

I think cutting spending is the least likely. Raising taxes lowers revenue,so I don't understand why anyone would want to do it.

Anyone looking at current revenue streams on a bar graph would be foolish to raise taxes right now,the deficit is closing fast.

Look, all that is necessary is for the Congress to pass bills in which the increase in spending would not increase OR decrease. Soon, the budjet would be right in line. However, there are those within a certain party, who twist the truth to the point that they have the voter confused by their braying and finger pointing.