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I caught an interview by a woman newsy with Dubyah the other night.
They strolled around the Whitehouse while she asked him some pretty good questions about his thoughts.

I was deeply impressed with his answers and stand on principal, but more so I was impressed with his demeanor as he talked with her.

I'm afraid I am going to be pretty much a single issue voter when Presidential Elections come around.

"Who can draw the line firmly enough so that we don't have to "nuke-em"?

I don't want the 'bloody toothed' hero on the white horse. That's where Hitlers get started.

Conversely, we cannot afford someone with rose colored glasses, or a moral coward.
Thoughts?
Ken
I think any of the next presidents, Democrat or Republican, or going to be forced to 'hold the line', and possibly even invade Iran or Syria. They'll simply be forced to.

More and more, I'm coming to think that the invasion of Iraq was inevitable, simply because the American people wanted it. They wanted to strike against the Muslim world in some big way, and they needed a war to exhaust all the emotions of fear and rage that 9/11 caused.

That being said, while the American people may be suffering from 'conflict fatigue', they do not support a withdrawal from Iraq, simply because they don't want to appear weak in the eyes of the world, especially the Muslims. Afterall, the election of Bush ultimately had little to do with policy and was really just a statement - "some of us may think the invasion of Iraq was a mistake, but we're not weak and we still intend of fighting you".
Anonymous24 Wrote:I think any of the next presidents, Democrat or Republican, or going to be forced to 'hold the line', and possibly even invade Iran or Syria. They'll simply be forced to.

More and more, I'm coming to think that the invasion of Iraq was inevitable, simply because the American people wanted it. They wanted to strike against the Muslim world in some big way, and they needed a war to exhaust all the emotions of fear and rage that 9/11 caused.

That being said, while the American people may be suffering from 'conflict fatigue', they do not support a withdrawal from Iraq, simply because they don't want to appear weak in the eyes of the world, especially the Muslims. Afterall, the election of Bush ultimately had little to do with policy and was really just a statement - "some of us may think the invasion of Iraq was a mistake, but we're not weak and we still intend of fighting you".

Do I detect a slight shift in your attitude Anon? If so congratulations. There really is a Supreme being up there. Wink1
I like Mitt Romney and Giuliani myself. I do not like McCain's temperment,it disqualifies him from my view.

As for the democrat side,I would not want to see Kerry or Gore be prominent,they would send a bad signal abroad,IMO.
Hillary,though hated by many,has resisted the mainstream democrat paradigm concerning Iraq and has only allowed herself to remonstrate against Rumsfeld as not doing the job well enough. She has shown herself in these last 3 years as more of a man than most democratic males in DC,IMO.

I can accept that,whether it is accurate or not I honestly just cannot figure out.
Pall, keep in mind that Hillory is a crook, first day till last. She is a fake.
NOTHING she says is based upon ethics or principle...but only expediency.
Ken
After all, she learned from the world's best at what he does: Bubba. Unfortunately, she is not nearly as good, and certainly she is more hard edged and militant. I am not particularly worried about the Hildabeast.
John, I'm worried about hildevbeast. It is still 2 long years till elections.
I'm worried about ANY democrat challenger ACCIDENTLY getting the Presidency.
Goodness knows the Repubs have fallen down on the job. But with the lock-step enforced by the demos, what is our option?
Ken
John, I merely think that the war was inevitable and further war may be inevitable, because of the desires of the American people.
Anonymous24 Wrote:John, I merely think that the war was inevitable and further war may be inevitable, because of the desires of the American people.

Anon, there are only a small minority of "Jacksononians" around. While I believe in a strong national defense, the overwhelming majority of the US want only peace and prosperity, not war. However, most know that when it is necessary the endeavour must be taken, finished, and then 'back to peace'.

You are not giving the rest of this country the credit that it is due. You are sounding like a True Elitist, thinking that they are not smart or wise enough to know better. You must really change this outlook, as it will not get you far.
Well, a majority of the country believed Saddam had WMDs or a serious chance of getting them, which proved to be wrong. And a majority of the country thinks that we should invade Iran as a last-option to prevent them from getting nukes. Though in fairness, that would be a good idea... if Iran was close to getting nukes. They're not.

Going by your reasoning, the wise majority must be right about Bush. A majority think he's screwing up.
Anonymous24 Wrote:Well, a majority of the country believed Saddam had WMDs or a serious chance of getting them, which proved to be wrong. And a majority of the country thinks that we should invade Iran as a last-option to prevent them from getting nukes. Though in fairness, that would be a good idea... if Iran was close to getting nukes. They're not.

Going by your reasoning, the wise majority must be right about Bush. A majority think he's screwing up.

EVERYBODY Screws Up! We are not sinless. Get used to it.

And why you guys are so willing to turn the other way with Bubba and castigate Dubwa for the lesser number, is beyond me: unless you are a shameless political Whore. I know that Grizz is, or he is dumber than he looks. I thought you were starting to learn the 'unvarnished' truth?

Frankly, I dispise Both of your houses. A Pox on Both of them! We need for at least one of you to crash and burn, so we can get at least one party that has it's Crap together. Frankly, the Jackasses are beyond hope, IMHO. They need to disband, and have all the Collectivist Idiots take a trip over Niagara Falls in wooden barells.

Sorry, but I am in a foul mood today. I'm behind schedule, my new Ubunto Linux is working, but I am having trouble converting files,a nd I am ready to take it and throw it in the trash. I'll feel better tomorrow. Sorry for the rant.