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Since only about 5 threads out of 50 are not on Islam terrorism, I thought I break up the monotony and post about another threat that USA could be facing.

Check ABC News Link for full story: http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1

Young Singers Spread Racist HateDuo Considered the Olsen Twins of the White Nationalist Movement
Lamb and Lynx Gaede (ABC News)
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Oct. 20, 2005 — Thirteen-year-old twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede have one album out, another on the way, a music video, and lots of fans.

They may remind you of another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach a message of hate.


Known as "Prussian Blue" — a nod to their German heritage and bright blue eyes — the girls from Bakersfield, Calif., have been performing songs about white nationalism before all-white crowds since they were nine.

"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white … we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race."

Related story about Oklohoma City Bombing: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=670146&page=1
Right, we had a thread about these two cute little hate packages. They are an embarassment. I can only hope that when they grow up, they marry some sane and peaceful husbands, and escape their parents.
It's a good post,I personally share the revulsion at this "hatemongering" group. If you study them,you find their central hatred is focused on 1 group in particular far beyond others.

JEWS.

I've stated from day 1 after 9-11,these types are the natural allies of the Islamic terrorists. Same basic myopias,alliance of convenience.
I don't know much about these Aryan Sisters, I thought their hate was focused on Blacks.
Kamil,

These people DO hate blacks,Catholics and Mexicans. But,their main focus in the conspiracy mentality is Jews.

They really believe what some Islamic radicals claim and Hitler did,that Jews control the earth and are currently using America for their nefarious purposes. You yourself heard Otto make comments like this.

In fact,if you do much study on them,you will see this frequently

ZOG.

Zionist Occupation Government.

That's what they think of the USA.

The famous "Ruby Ridge" thing was a man who raised his kids to think like this.

Here is a good case of potential Christians(I don't know if they are or are not) operating in opposition to the expressed Will of God,regardless of what they believe.

Incidentally,please return to the previous thread where we have been arguing,I have a post there for everyone I think is of the utmost importance. Especially,it is important for you to read what I wrote after our arguing phase. That's what I think of you,always have. I will always desire your friendship and regret my hostile comments towards you.
Palladin, thank you for posting your honest opinions.

First of all, my background is of a Sunni from Hannefi School of thought. However, like most Sunnis of Turkey I have been influenced by Alevi believes.

If some of the Alevis did not have whirling dervishes, I might have joined their sect Shock

As far as my support to Hizbullah, it is zero. I would have been quitely cheering for Israelis if they would have gone with enough ground troops to destroy Hizbullah and do less damage elsewhere in Lebanon.

I think as a results of using small amount of ground troops, poor inteligence resulting in bombing of wrong areas in Lebanon made Hizbullah stronger than they were before.
Kamil these little girls are have been indoctrinated into believing ancient propoganda. By ancient I mean its been around for a long time, some people still believe in it. In my opinion its a case of child abuse to teach such stupidity and hatred to children. I would have had these kids taken away from this family. I first saw this case last year on O'Reilly.

Fortunately most Americans are sickened by parents who teach this crap to their children. Stuff like this is praised openly elsewhere. By the way you notice who's in here condeming the little girls and their parents? Keep that in mind before the other side tries to label us as racists, intolerant etc.
Kamil,

What exactly are "whirling dervishes"? I read years ago about some in Sudan back around 1880 who fought the Brits. A famed Brit general named Gordon died fighting them.
Palladin Wrote:Kamil,

What exactly are "whirling dervishes"? I read years ago about some in Sudan back around 1880 who fought the Brits. A famed Brit general named Gordon died fighting them.

I beleive they are sufis that literately spin in a circle for hours...They have a standard garb with one hand pointing up (recieving energy from allah) and the other pointing down (releasing the energy to the ground)...both arms are horizontal for the most part.

Its a very unique take on Islam. Very meditative like. Most muslims condier the sect, Sufi, a herisy.
Neocon explained the ritual very well.

I think they are a branch of Alevis belonging to the Bektasi Order of Alevis. It was started by religious scholar named Mevlânâ Celâleddin Rûmi.

Quote:The Mevlevi have always been ecumenical in outlook, welcoming non-Muslims to the sema in the belief that all people are equal in the sight of God. (Seljuk society was an equally ecumenical place: a ruling class of Turks and a populace of Byzantine Greeks, Jews, Armenians, Kurds and others).

Rumî's most famous writing is his invitation to the sema:

Whoever you may be, come
Even though you may be
An infidel, a pagan, or a fire-worshipper, come
Our brotherhood is not one of despair
Though you have broken
Your vows of repentance a hundred times, come
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A good site to find out about Whirling Dervishes is at:
http://www.guide-martine.com/religion.asp
Thanks guys. If I were a Muslim,I could NOT be one. Once,when my son was a little boy,I took him to a park with rides,etc. He wanted to ride this thing that spins your guts out and I told him,"Andrew,I can't do that one,I'll get sick".

Well,he looked down at the ground like it was the end of the world. Yep,I rode it. About 1/3 the way through,I could feel that taste in my mouth. The one preceding a good barfing.

Finally,I got off the ride without barfing and laid down outside,white as a sheet,cold sweat. That spinning thing ain't for me!