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With France in decay and other European Nations following...
I thought there was an interesting trend emerging (cited from article) I don't quite understand the Dutch one tho'.

* The French lower house of parliament passed a tough new immigration law.
* Austria’s interior minister, Liese Prokop, asserted publicly that 45 percent of her country’s Muslim immigrants “cannot be integrated,” and admonished them to “choose another country” in which to live.
* The Dutch minister of immigration, Rita Verdonk, withdrew citizenship from Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim-born immigrant who became renowned as a critic of Islam.


http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Article...p?ID=22691

EXERPT:
Quote:"Almost Like an Invasion"
By Daniel Pipes
FrontPageMagazine.com | May 31, 2006

The illegal immigration of non-Western peoples, I predict, will become an all-consuming issue in every Western country.

As Western birth rates plummet, as communication and transportation networks improve, and as radical Islam increasingly rears its aggressive head, Europeans, Americans, and others worry about their economic standards and the continuity of their cultures. After ignoring this issue for decades, reactions in Europe especially have sharpened of late.

* The French lower house of parliament passed a tough new immigration law.
* Austria’s interior minister, Liese Prokop, asserted publicly that 45 percent of her country’s Muslim immigrants “cannot be integrated,” and admonished them to “choose another country” in which to live.
* The Dutch minister of immigration, Rita Verdonk, withdrew citizenship from Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim-born immigrant who became renowned as a critic of Islam.

But the most dramatic, agonizing, and consequential developments for immigration to the West are taking place along the remote west coast of Africa. It has emerged as a main springboard for would-be emigrants to access the riches of Spain and then all Europe.

West Africa’s role is a new one...
Thanks, Marbleheader, for linking that interesting article. When I visited Spain in September, illegal immigrants from Africa were making front page news.

Starting perhaps with the USA, the champions of liberty and economic prosperity have welcomed immigrants...until now. Maybe we should take down that great poem by Emma Lazarus from the Statue of Liberty, because it is no longer national policy in most developed countries to say,

"Give me your tired,your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me."

Maybe we should send the Statue of Liberty back to the French people. There's no room in the inn. We don't believe in being hospitable to strangers any more. Wretched refuse no longer fits our economic goals. We literally build giant walls to keep them out.

Hospitality used to be a standard element of world religions. I thought it was supposed to be. Maybe I'm wrong.
Fit, I think that you are overdoing things here. Throughout US history, we have gone through periods of accelerated, and then slowed down, immigration. This has been necessary because we can only assimilate just so many at any one time and maintain our current stability.

By using satire above, are you also stating that there should be NO limit whatsoever? Should we just open all our arms and beckon EVERYBODY to "Come On Down"?
Quote:"Give me your tired,your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me."

Yes bring your murders, rapists, drug dealers, drug users, wife beaters, thieves, alcoholics etc. Thats what we have been getting. See the dishonesty by the amnesty side is what has most Americans upset. We still accept people into this country but have a legal process to make the process smooth. The country learned the hardships from previous immigration so it put laws in place to make assimilation better and security better.
Good repsonse there John. We have always had epochs of hostility to immigration and we have always gotten over it. Who can't recall the stories of hostility to ethnic Chinamen that built our railroad east-west?

The list is long.

I think Thai is over reacting here. That Emma Lazarus poem was NEVER the policy of the nation,in fact it is fantastically ridiculous.

America never sought to be the home of the worst of other societies. Check the immigration rules,they only allow the best educated into this nation legally along with family members.

We've taken in those we HOPED were the MOST honest and HARDEST working,not the refuse of other societies. Who allowed Emma to be the poet for immigration I do not know,but it's a false image of what we have always been about.

If Emma's ideology were ours,we would be right in line with say Somalia or East Timor about right now.
But throughout history we have gotten the *refuse*. In colonial times it was the Englishmen so poor they worked as indentured servants(at least in the South). In the 19th century it was dirt-poor German, Scandinavian, and Irish farmers. In the early 20th century it was poor Italians and Eastern Europeans fleeing war, and in the late 20th century it was Hispanics, what we're dealing with now. This stuff about 'only the educated and hard-working' is something that was invented in the 60s.
Anon,

I think we got the hardest working,the most adventurous,the bravest.

Otherwise,we'd be loaded down with losers and we'd be last among all the nations.

Maybe refuse back then meant the lower caste which is a plague of the mentality of Europeans and Indians,not us.
I agree with that, but they were considered 'refuse' by the people living here. Just as illegal immigrants are.
Anon,

Yea,if the term "refuse" is just those who aren't the arrogant upper caste,not a problem. However,the term today means low class character wise and we didn't get a lot of them or we wouldn't be where we are,we got the go getters.
Well, the quote on the Statue of Liberty defines 'refuse' as being the poor...
Anon,

The poor are no more or less virtuous than the rich,so to me these are useless platitudes.

I know poor people who are literally the salt of the earth(my grandmother raised 6 kids through the depression without a husband honestly) and I know many who are meth addicts and thieves and are poor because they are without character.

Emma's poem is not national policy,it's a poem that makes some folks feel good.