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http//www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?slug=Pak+Generals+planned+to+attack+US%3A+Benazir&id=87960
Is there any evidence to any of this?
If nothing else, she makes a good point here.

Quote:Bhutto also said that President Pervez Musharraf would not apprehend Osama as it would amount to a political suicide and deprive himself of justification for his continuation.
I believe she's being honest myself. Gul is a rabid Islamist who makes accusations about like Muneris did below.
Aha! Only been here 4 days and already I am infamous! Truly, I am honoured (sweeps off his hat and bows elaborately).
Muneris,

It takes some real honor to make charges like you did.
Palladin Wrote:Muneris,

It takes some real honor to make charges like you did.

Eat your Heart out Patrick. He is more than up to the task, don't you know? Wink1 S6
Palladin Wrote:Looks like he is. Does it **** you off when idiots make comments like this? You are the people he is talking about,your type,but the brainless idiot doesn't know you.

Be careful to whom you cast stones. You may be surprised and embarrased. Wink1
I'm naked in my beautiful glass house here. I'm purty.
His type? I thought John was in the Air Force, not the CIA.
Muneris Wrote:His type? I thought John was in the Air Force, not the CIA.

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Am I wrong? You said you were in the military, didn't you say the Air Force?
Muneris,

FYI,John is an retired operator,just the type you claim taught Afghan neanderthals to kill someone's mother. He was simply an Army SOCOM soldier instead of employed by CIA,same difference truthfully over here.

We excuse you.
Palladin Wrote:Muneris,

FYI,John is an retired operator,just the type you claim taught Afghan neanderthals to kill someone's mother. He was simply an Army SOCOM soldier instead of employed by CIA,same difference truthfully over here.

We excuse you.

I never stayed in long enough to retire. I should have remained though, but at the time of leaving, morale in the Army was so low as to be at rock bottom. It took over a decade to restore most of the morale and even then the cloud of Vietnam was still with it.
John,

The cloud of Vietnam is still with the society. We have to hang for the long slog in Iraq to vanquish that in society.
Quote:FYI,John is an retired operator,just the type you claim taught Afghan neanderthals to kill someone's mother.
Did he himself do that? If not, why does it matter?
Muneris,

No,nor have his associates as you falsely claimed.
His associates? If he was never in the CIA how are they his associates?
Muneris,

Where do you think CIA field agents start their careers? In Army Delta Force,Navy Seals,etc.

They don't take goofballs like me and send us to Tehran to figure out what the deal is. Or Kabul,or Moscow. Smart and experienced,college educated special operators.
Palladin, I really fail to see what it has to do with John.
So some people who did this stuff had at one time done the same job as John? Is it anything to do with me if there's a murderer who used to work for the post office, because I too once worked in the post office?

I think you take things too collectively, you need to take them more individually (ironic, eh John?). I have said that certain people did certain things, and these people were American. WHose fault is that? Them, and the people who ordered them to do it. Not the rest of America. You can't judge a country on what some of its citizens do at some point, even with government backing. My government has at various points done lots of bad things, that doesn't make British people bad.

By the way, that was a general point, as I have never said that what these people did was bad. At the time I'm sure it made perfect sense: even if dirty tactics had to be used, and innocents die, that was better than letting us all be ruled by Communism. I just said it to show how you were right when you said that those who are our allies now may be our enemies in the future, so we have to be careful in how we help them militarily.
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