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It seems that not everyone agrees with George Bush's claim that Islam is a religion of love and tolleration. Australia's leading Roman Catholic leader, Teh Archbishop of Sydney believes that it is encumbent upon us to read the Koran, and then judge for ourselves. In o ye, of little tolerant faith, he states that there were so many invocations to violence, that he finally stopped counting the instances.



Quote:The Archbishop of Sydney, Cardinal George Pell, said reading the Koran, the sacred text of Islam, was vital “because the challenge of Islam will be with us for the remainder of our lives - at least”. ...

Dr Pell said the September 11 terrorist attacks had been his personal wake-up call to understand Islam better. He had tried to reconcile claims that Islam was a faith of peace with those that suggested the Koran legitimised the killings of non-Muslims.

While there was room for optimism in fruitful dialogue between faiths and the common human desire for peace, a pessimistic response began “with the Koran itself”. Errors of facts, inconsistencies, anachronisms and other defects were not unknown to scholars but difficult for Muslims to debate openly, he said.

“In my own reading of the Koran, I began to note down invocations to violence. There are so many of them, however, that I abandoned this exercise after 50 or 60 or 70 pages.”

Last year, Dr Pell courted controversy when he drew a link between Islam and communism. His speech on Islam and Western democracies was delivered in Florida on February 4 but only appeared on the archdiocese’s website on Wednesday.

Dr Pell said every nation and every religion, including Catholicism, had “crimes in their histories”. In the same way, Islam could not airbrush its “shadows”.

Claims of Muslim tolerance of Christian and Jewish minorities were largely mythical and he wondered about the possibility of theological development in Islam when the Koran was said to come directly from God. “Considered strictly on its own terms, Islam is not a tolerant religion and its capacity for far-reaching renovation is severely limited,” he said.

However, like Christianity, Islam was a living religion and the existence of moderate Islam in Indonesia was proof of the softening impact of human intervention.

Democracy and moderation did not always go hand in hand and an "anorexic vision of democracy and the human person was no match for Islam", he said.
2 comments

1)Thanks for the honesty and courage

2) Duh!
Palladin Wrote:2 comments:

1)Thanks for the honesty and courage

2) Duh!

I threw this one and some more, out at IAP today. Still haven't heard anything from "you know who", but fully expect him to seath over them. I'll let you know if he starts winding up for a 'conniption'. S6
I'm sure he'll dislike the attempt to portray the truth here. Note the archbishop states he ran into so many violent urgings he lost count and stopped reading early on.

More I read,more I think Bin Laden is a good Muslim from the Islamic viewpoint. The others are lacking in dedication and faithfulness.
Palladin Wrote:I'm sure he'll dislike the attempt to portray the truth here. Note the archbishop states he ran into so many violent urgings he lost count and stopped reading early on.

More I read,more I think Bin Laden is a good Muslim from the Islamic viewpoint. The others are lacking in dedication and faithfulness.

You just wait. I'm going to keep looking for these things, and posting them here AND there. If you hear this huge explosion, all the way to Y12 one day, you will know that Salah has exploded and California is sliding into the Pacific. :lol:
AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!

OI OI OI!

God save Australia! man i love those guys!