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I have to write an essay comparing and contrasting the differences between Chinese and Japanese history, and why these differences led the two nations to develop very differently. Could someone boil this down a few points for me? What are the main differences?
Anon,

Way too much for me to answer fully. HOWEVER,start with the fact that the HAN Chinese(main Chinese group) were repeatedly attacked and threatened with attack by the Mongols up until they built the great wall. Seems like that was near the 13th century????

Then,the Mongols turned westward. Whatever the affects of multiple ravaging invasions,the Han Chinese seemed pleased to settle inside the great wall and be isolated from the world. I always read they felt they were the center of the universe.

The Nipponese were also isolationists with little to no knowledge of the outside. Then,along comes the arrogant USA of the late 19th century and invaded Japan,forced them to trade with us and we got a very aggressive/expansionist&racist oriented Japan as a result.

That's the extent of my knowledge,but the book "The Rape of Nanking" seemed to state that Japan had developed and spread a virulently racist culture which allowed young Nipponese soldiers to enjoy it while they used live Chinamen for bayonet practice and stuff fence posts into Chinese girl's vaginas. I've seen the photos. REPULSIVE STUFF.

Nipponese also worshipped the emperor,I think we would have to consider that a major factor in their aggressive racism. He was god,no one else had one,that type mentality.
The principle physical difference is that japan is an island nation, and China is not. This enabled Japan to isolate itself, develop it's own form of racial supremacy, and not have to feel the effects of outside invasions.

There are others, however, this I would consider to be one of the greatest.
Good point. Until they struck out across Asia,they could have continued to raise little children to believe in the big racist lie without consequences.

The Chinese are racist as well culturally,but their views don't seem to denigrate the "other" so much as elevate them. Plus,as you say,the Mongols kept them humble!
Thanks a lot guys. As it turns out the topic is 'differences since *1945*'. And there's an outline. But if you've got anything, I could use. Obviously the main difference is that the Japanese were allied with the U.S., and the Chinese were communist, until 197?
Anonymous24 Wrote:Obviously the main difference is that the Japanese were allied with the U.S., and the Chinese were communist, until 197?

Still are, in many ways.

Single-party rule continues just as before.

And most of the Chinese economy (counted as the number of people involved) is still "old-style" communist: central planning and concerns about employment rather than profit-making.
Gosh,differences since 1945??? How about you start with human freedom resided in Japan,tyranny worse than Hitler and Stalin together resided in China???
From a different angle: calories. Japan is a congested island with no Natural resources - and insufficient farmland to raise enough crops to feed everyone well. The consequence was religion designed to nurture introspection and minimalist physical exertion. Instead of racing or fighting, they developed flower arranging as an art form.

China was just huge. The population was in the mountains, in the valleys, and growing crops everywhere. The bureaucracy that grew to handle it was by necessity, focused on itself. There was no effort to expand horizons, because controlling itself was a full-time task. Navel-gazing is often how the Chinese culture is described... inwardly concentrating made it resistant to conquest, because all conquerors just became Chinese.
i saw a documentary on PBS that lead to the conclusion that a major rift is growing between the peasant farming class and the "rich" city, mostly young, factory workers. the cities are meant to attract Western Dollars, while veiling the Truth of Communism in China.

interesting stuff.
Interestingly that Japanese has adopted Chinese hieroglyph scrypt and eleborated from it two alphabits: hiragana and katakana (which is used for special terms, adopted words or names of foreigners). The tendency is that hieroglyphics is getting replaced by English equivalents (written in katakana) mostly of American origin.
Recently I have heard that in some 100 years there will be only 5 world-wide languages. Certainly English will be the one of them. I have a strong feeling Europe (and partly Asia) will make English the second official language.
New times colonization will solidify.
Green,

You speak my language,but I don't speak yours. This is common .

Did anyone force you to learn English or did you choose to?
I don't think I have much of an option...
Green Wrote:Interestingly that Japanese has adopted Chinese hieroglyph scrypt and eleborated from it two alphabits: hiragana and katakana (which is used for special terms, adopted words or names of foreigners). The tendency is that hieroglyphics is getting replaced by English equivalents (written in katakana) mostly of American origin.
Recently I have heard that in some 100 years there will be only 5 world-wide languages. Certainly English will be the one of them. I have a strong feeling Europe (and partly Asia) will make English the second official language.
New times colonization will solidify.

I suspect that in 100 years there will be just as many languages as today. Globalization will not do away with the tribalism that will be strong throughout the world.

In fact, the trend will be greater in the future than right now.

As we think globally, we will continue to act tribally.
I take issue with the view Green expressed of "colonization". He chose to speak English for his own reasons,this is how it is across the globe.

That is free choice,not colonization.
We will act tribally if we we will be divided into smaller nations.
If competing cultures stay roughly even, then there is motivation for tribalism. If the U.S. experiment bears fruit, and so totally eclipses the rest of the world - that long talked-about one-world government will eventually come to be by default. Who will be the first European nation to ask for statehood? I'm betting on Belgium.

There may well be quaint historical societies teaching grandchildren how to dance in wooden shoes or hula skirts for the pleasure of what once was... but as personal success becomes tied to what works the best, the outmoded will disappear.

Very few buggy-whip manufactures prosper today.
Green Wrote:We will act tribally if we we will be divided into smaller nations.

that is what I have been saying for years now. Nations will devolve to their "Lowest Common Functional Denominator". Czechoslovakia is the perfect example, where the nation made the choice to break up into two units.

This is going to happen all around the world,(and most not peacefully) where there are many ethnic groups, that are not able to cooperate in pooling their cultures. The US is a good example of an exception to this. I fully expect Indonesia, and China to eventually split up. Possibly the same with Russia. I don't think Russia is through with downsizing.
Palladin Wrote:I take issue with the view Green expressed of "colonization". He chose to speak English for his own reasons,this is how it is across the globe.

That is free choice,not colonization.
In case of Japan it is colonization.
Green Wrote:
Palladin Wrote:I take issue with the view Green expressed of "colonization". He chose to speak English for his own reasons,this is how it is across the globe.

That is free choice,not colonization.
In case of Japan it is colonization.

Not really.

The Japanese decided to move their efforts into the Economy and Commerce, rather than War and Empire Building.---a shift of the national idea into a new area.

Global economy (and penetrating the US markets) required English. So they learned it.
Quote:The Japanese decided to move their efforts into the Economy and Commerce, rather than War and Empire Building.
Did they? Or they were made to decide within the limited option?
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