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mv Wrote:I wonder where it puts the Dutch government.... A murder (or a series of murders) committed on its territory....

AP confirms drugs.

According to the Dutch constitution, the international treaties we signed up to transcend national law. The ICC (or ICJ) probably made up its own regulations with regard to prison security, and those rules are enforced in the ICC instead of those that are enforced in normal prisons on Dutch territory. The constitutional clause (#93) makes no sense, but it makes the Netherlands a great place to conduct the UN's dirty business. (Btw, I think the government also likes it to have those institutions here because they love to keep a close eye on them. We're the #1 in wiretapping and certain intelligence services have other strange records, but that is a far side note.)

Just read a news article from 2002 which reports that Milosevic had been given wrong medicines in those days that caused his blood pressure to rise very quickly. So it had happened before and the ICC or the Dutch government did not act on it.
There is something seriously wrong with "transcend national law"....

In NY, it means lots of unpaid traffic and parking tickets (UN transends..) Here we got a murder or murders and no authority to prosecute....
Did Debka just set up a suicide charge against Hussein if he is poisoned? What a convoluted machination. Plots within plots. I'm waiting to hear anything about this in the MSM. Anyone have any sources yet?

According to http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org Slobadon Milosevic's last words were: "Don't you worry: They will not destroy me or break me; I shall defeat them all."

As of Sunday, The Hague is refusing to allow a Moscow autopsy.
WmLambert Wrote:Did Debka just set up a suicide charge against Hussein if he is poisoned?
No, progressive Iraqis have wonderful tradition to kill Saddam's lawyers and Debka keeps silence.
C'mon bh, do you have some documentation that the Saddam lawyers were killed by "progressive Iraqi's" rather than by "repressive former Saddam Mujahideens?"

Or just political opportunists from Iran, Syria, al Qaeda, or elsewhere?
WmLambert Wrote:C'mon bh, do you have some documentation that the Saddam lawyers were killed by "progressive Iraqi's" rather than by "repressive former Saddam Mujahideens?"

Or just political opportunists from Iran, Syria, al Qaeda, or elsewhere?

And why would Saddam's followers kill his lawyers?

Most likely, it is the Shia paramilitary (death squads). AQ (Zarqawi), Iran, Syria cannot be totally excluded, but Shia (progressive Iraqis) is the most likely suspect.
WmLambert Wrote:C'mon bh, do you have some documentation that the Saddam lawyers were killed by "progressive Iraqi's" rather than by "repressive former Saddam Mujahideens?"
OK, they commited suicide... :?
bh Wrote:OK, they commited suicide... :?

Or overdozed on heart, TB, or leprosy drugs.... S2
mv Wrote:
bh Wrote:OK, they commited suicide... :?

Or overdozed on heart, TB, or leprosy drugs.... S2
Yup, Debka is absolutely correct... S2
You guys got me confused: is it the war on t, or the war on d?
And, while we are with the topic, does "on" means a war-like action upon the somewhat nebulous subject (be it either t or d), or it is some other way, like t or d being under the influence of "war" substance? :lol:
"d" ???

Oh, I got you. War on Debka! Wink1
You know, I'd love to ticket the living shyt out of those UN anal warts.

Transcends national law my arse.

I should be a UN worker in like Paris or something and run down old people and pedestrians - bet your butt I'd be prosecuted?
Stratfor wrote a fairly interesting article on possible developments in Serbia. You may want to use the Green Door to read it. Wink1
AP: Rice maligns Slobo

Free Republic thread: Looks like Rice' popularity did not get much of a boost with this episode. S2
mv Wrote:Stratfor wrote a fairly interesting article on possible developments in Serbia. You may want to use the Green Door to read it. Wink1
I tried yesterday...
:evil:
But today I obtained it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/yugo/article/0...95,00.html
Quote:The case against Slobodan Milosevic would never have held up in a proper court of law
The fact is that Milosevic's enemies have never been able to produce a single rabid nationalist, let alone racist, quotation from his mouth, while in the four years of his trial at The Hague not a single witness has testified that he ordered war crimes.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/...e_continue

Quote:Most of the weekend comment on Slobodan Milosevic's death asserted that he thus cheated justice, escaping an inevitable verdict of guilt at the UN war crimes tribunal in The Hague. There is an alternative view, however, that Milosevic's exit enables justice to escape a hideous embarrassment. The prisoner was likely to be acquitted on a substantial number of the charges against him.
Few reasonable people doubt Milosevic's complicity in tens of thousands of deaths. He started four wars, all of which he lost. His ruthless ambition to rule a Greater Serbia brought untold suffering to millions. Yet proving Milosevic's direct involvement, finding his fingerprints on a smoking gun, turned out to be harder than prosecutors at the Hague anticipated. Most of the worst atrocities were carried out by Bosnian Serbs or Serbs in Kosovo. Documentary evidence of a direct link between Milosevic and the killers was sparse or non-existent.
Actually every shitty western democrat is Vyshinsky invardly. Milosevic is guilty because he is guilty. Never mind that evidence of his guilty is non-existent, he is guilty.
mv Wrote:"d" ???

Oh, I got you. War on Debka! Wink1
No :oops: War on Drugs.
Quote:Actually every shitty western democrat is Vyshinsky invardly. Milosevic is guilty because he is guilty. Never mind that evidence of his guilty is non-existent, he is guilty.

Hey, leave Vyshinsky out of it. He had some evidence and even admissions, and his trials were quick. He also did not poison anyone, as far as I know. Wink1
mv Wrote:Hey, leave Vyshinsky out of it. He had some evidence and even admissions, and his trials were quick. He also did not poison anyone, as far as I know. Wink1
Correct, but there is similarity as well. I mean crowd of morons, who are repeating: " Death to the enemies of....". Soviet Union is on rising... I watched on Euronews report about Valencia, governed by Solana's friends socialists. Group of Brits bought lands in Valencia and live there. Once municipality decided they must build new supermarket and some buildings on lands, that belongs to Brits and local farmers. They ... confiscated land and put it at builders disposal. Brits stil can't understand what happened and whom to blame and whom to bring a suit against, municipality is beggary, building company got a profit and ... dissapeared . Spaniards take it as a matter of cause... IMHO confiscatiion of lands is typical bolshevism and honestly Solana looks like leader of Mahno's troop and have the same habits.
I don't want to hijack the thread with the land confiscations, but that many of them are socialists (or as John prefers, friendly fascists) is not exactly a secret.

Obviously, I'm not about to defend Solana, I'm simply more concerned about our domestic bastards which have greater power and can commit greater evil. Solana can only vent, he needed people like Clinton and Rice to create harm.
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