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WmLambert Wrote:Eaglestrikes, you do realize that you have engaged in politics of personal dsestruction of a sort: ad hominem attack? Please don't shoot the messenger. I mention common sensical things and you immediately demand credentials?

I phrased my statements open-endedly for a reason - in order to draw comments. Your response could have been: Yes, I see what you mean, however... , or else: No, I get what you're driving at, but have you considered...? We don't need sycophancy here, or outright derision... In general we all learn more when everyone jumps in and expands on the topic - adding what they can. Sometimes an unprepossessing topic develops into something special.

I say the tapes were most likely not part of any Terrorist directives - there are less ambiguous ways to send info, which don't stand the chance of accidentally revealing bin Laden's whereabouts.

Hmmm. No attacks. Ad hominem or any other way. I asked you repeatedly to present more than just presumption. I asked you several question that might have established your bonafides to make blanket statements with out supporting material. You are convinced you are right. Sail on.
BTW I guess I am just mule stubborn...never liked being driven in any direction, nor told how to talk. Guess if you could tell others what to say or even how to say it, no one would ever disagree with you.
Are your lectures free or is there payment due?
You made statements. You never backed them up. You presented as if you were privy to intelligence no one else had. It became obvious you did not, and had never been connected to any intelligence organization.
I say to you. Go with what you know. I shall go with what I know. (Especially since it is in my bailiwick and I have been over there about five times now.) (Think in terms of Security Management for the US government)
I presented a believe nothing more. I stated my opinion nothing more.
You have yet to tell me WHAT was incorrect.
Adieu.
I DID tell you what was incorrect. I said that the Bin Laden tape was prerecorded and then distributed by Al Jazeera at the time of their choosing.

Please tell us how this equates to a coded message from bin Laden instructing his widespread troops about anything.
WmLambert Wrote:I DID tell you what was incorrect. I said that the Bin Laden tape was prerecorded and then distributed by Al Jazeera at the time of their choosing.

Stratfor wrote a couple of articles on this tape; not only it was prerecorded, but it might have been spliced together from different recordings.

Quote:Please tell us how this equates to a coded message from bin Laden instructing his widespread troops about anything.

Almost certainly there is nothing in the tape for the AQ troops. There is an effort to create the record of a peace offer---which works for AQ regardless of Bush' reaction or non-reaction to it. There is a very interesting similarity to the democratic arguments; perhaps AQ and the Democrats are using the same speechwriters.

The nearest thing that comes to an order to troops is the (remote, imho, but some commentators seem to think this way) possibility that this tape's peace offer is the prelude to the next attack on the US (just like the peace offer to Europe was followed by attacks); but even if so, this does not mean an offer, but merely OBL's awareness of the already planned and forthcoming attack.

Since Zarkawi reappeared on the forum, perhaps he will be kind enough to interpret for us? S6
interesting insight guy.
Bean
Eagle and Wm: Hey, you guys! I respect both of yous and both of yous opinions. Pleeze don't get ruffled at each other. Pleeze? All the wise ones need to be the leaders......... Let the nutz beat on each other, but not you two. Eagle, please?

The tape was obviously spliced, was it not? And, old?
I wonder how many "troops" he has? I think fanatical Muslims respond moreso to their local leaders myself. How many Arabs have died trying to answer the call of Zarqawi and their Imam's in Iraq? A whole lot.

The numbers attempting to do anything unrelated to Zarqawi is small.
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