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Guess what happened yesterday, April 17, 2016?  

First, Blizzard and (very) heavy snowfall in Sakhalin, Russia

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And here is yesterday in Evergrfeen, Colorado yesterday. 

Four Feet of Snow Time Lapse in Evergreen Colorado - April 2016


And here is the Weather Channel, showing time lapse on another home in the same area.   

And here's Golden Colorado.
Hey, ain't Global Warming just wonderful folks?  S18

Where the hells Jack when we need him?  Should we send out for the rescue squad? Shock

And whatever happened to that 'so called' climate expert, who stated in 2000 that snowfall in the UK would be a thing of the past?

UK weather: What happened to Spring? It's April and snow stops play on first day of cricket season

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"And whatever happened to that 'so called' climate expert, who stated in 2000 that snowfall in the UK would be a thing of the past?"

He was promoted and is now in management.

And he changed his name to "Buzz"!

S1
Its too bad The Buzz refuses to be civil.  I'd love to get his honest, and mature, opinion on all this.   Gah
Climate Change: What Do Scientists Say?




What They Haven't Told You about Climate Change

Here's an interesting website and this is really interesting data:
http://www.science20.com/news_articles/n...fur-172803
(05-18-2016, 09:38 AM)Palladin Wrote: [ -> ]Here's an interesting website and this is really interesting data:
http://www.science20.com/news_articles/n...fur-172803

What is interesting is that for years now, climate scientists have stated that sulfur gas is harmful for planet in that it helps lead to Global Warming. But now scientists are stating............

Quote:"In the atmosphere dimethylsulfide oxidizes to sulfuric acid, which some scientists think can seed cloud formation and alter heating of the Earth," said Steve Giovannoni, a distinguished professor of microbiology in the College of Science at Oregon State University, and corresponding author of the study.

In other words, its just the polar opposite because cloud formation reflects the sun's radiation and is a cooling agent. How times change. S5

I've linked to the site Patrick. Thanks
Not sure this would change anyone's view, but ,like you say, it's evidence there are natural "anti warming" elements here.
(05-18-2016, 10:37 AM)Palladin Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure this would change anyone's view, but ,like you say, it's evidence there are natural "anti warming" elements here.

Yeah, this planet is in constant "equilibrium" with itself.  When the planet becomes too cool, it makes changes.  When the planet becomes too warm, it again takes appropriate action.  And no matter what we do, we haven't the power this earth has.  

Tell you what.  If you look at the Lake Vostok data charts, and look at the glaciation periods from the last several hundred thousand years of this Pleistocene ice age, you can see that this is what the planet is doing in order to offset the glaciation periods.  

Here, I'll show you.

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Notice how the planet keeps trying to overcome this glaciation period, caused by the change in orbit and continental drifting.  As it goes along, the temperature always increases, only to be knocked back down again.  This continues until the orbital eccentricity forces the planet closer to the sun for a longer time, and it comes out of a glaciation.  

Nobody talks about what is causing this immediate drop back into the tank.  But there is only one real logical explanation.  The planet is periodically bombarded with asteroids and comets, which quickly causes the planet temperature to drop.  The planet gets warmer,.......WHAM, we are hit by an Impactor, which throws us back.  But the planet keeps working toward equilibrium.  

And we humans actually believe we are masters of this planet?   Yeah, sure......................, Unadulterated Hubris. S13
I think it is based on hubris as well, but, I work with a youngster and he is convinced AGW is real and deadly. I listen to him and don't argue much, just throw out little questions, but, he is serious.

He thinks guys like us are insane. He is so determined he wants to quit eating meat, grow his own food because the food supply creates emissions so bad.

It bugs me mainly because he is so sincere. Guys like Obama sand Gore are using people like this, I don't think they really believe in it as much except to make money off it.
(05-18-2016, 10:58 AM)Palladin Wrote: [ -> ]I think it is based on hubris as well, but, I work with a youngster and he is convinced AGW is real and deadly. I listen to him and don't argue much, just throw out little questions, but, he is serious.

He thinks guys like us are insane. He is so determined he wants to quit eating meat, grow his own food because the food supply creates emissions so bad.

It bugs me mainly because he is so sincere. Guys like Obama sand Gore are using people like this, I don't think they really believe in it as much except to make money off it.

Let me get hold of him for a while.  I can load him up with so many facts, he would have to be wearing blinders not to recognize the truth.

Just the fact that we are headed into another Grand Solar Minimum, and the last two winters have proven it, should cause any AGWer to reconsider. When this current El Nino, and its warm waters recede, the Shit is going to hit the fan
If this kid can be de programmed, anyone can, he is really fearful about environmental things. He's a good kid, too. Makes me feel bad for him. Started his own recycle program at work!
(05-18-2016, 02:32 PM)Palladin Wrote: [ -> ]If this kid can be de programmed, anyone can, he is really fearful about environmental things. He's a good kid, too. Makes me feel bad for him. Started his own recycle program at work!

I assume you are talking about your grandson, correct?  Oh, wait, he is a youngster employee I believe.

Regardless, it is apparent to me that he is caught in that "Kindergarden of Eden" Circle Jerk that produces more than its share of all caring Leftists.   DePrograming him is entirely doable, but it takes knowledge and patience on your part to get him to open his eyes and learn to think critically, by using a healthy dose of "Skepticism".    

Skepticism and Science are supposed to go hand-in-hand, but somehow that has gotten derailed lately.
I think a vegan diet is desirable, but not as a means for fighting global warming. True, cattle farmers maintain millions of cattle, and that is a strain on the environment, with all the manure polluting the ground water. But if anyone really believes that cow farts contribute to global warming, then logically the answer would be to kill half the cattle. (That would probably more than double the price of beefsteaks.) But wait--there are nearly eight billion human beings on this planet. So if you really want to fight global warming, kill half the human race, to cut down on the human farts. Wouldn't that be most logical?
John,

He is irrational in his fears.

Ron,

Ultimately, the malthusians will begin discussing population reduction to battle AGW. It just "fits". For now, easier to discuss cows farting than us farting.
I would be willing to accept the Mathusians' solutions, if they are the ones who are eliminated.
(05-19-2016, 01:03 PM)Ron Lambert Wrote: [ -> ]I would be willing to accept the Mathusians' solutions, if they are the ones who are eliminated.

How do you plan to eliminate them Ron?
That was my first thought reading that quote. My preferred idea is they grow up, get some wisdom and stop thinking like that.
Another study indicating warming is exaggerated by the models the nuts use.

http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/2...ity-paper/
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