AI-Jane Political, And Economic Forums

Full Version: French Local Elections
You're currently viewing a stripped down version of our content. View the full version with proper formatting.
Pages: 1 2
Michael, the next time you are going to link to the FT,........please, please, pretty please, let the rest of us know by saying "And now Ta-Daa, from the Financial Times,...........". Because all we get is that advertisement window that will not allow the rest of us to access the article, unless we promise to sacrifice out children, offer a pint of blood, or pay them for the privilege.............. Then we have to go through the process of tearing our way out, using terrible four letter words at your expense, and swearing that you will never get any Christmas, or birthday, present from us again. Shock

OR, you can actually break down and quote a portion of the article, so the rest of us can actually be able to read some of it.

OK? Mumble, mumble, swear word, explanative, grumble.........................................Banghead
Why is that I never have problems reading ft and you do?

This ought to be investigated, there might be a reason. Did you post something inappropriate on their site?

OK, BBC, Reuters, Yahoo.
Never posted anything there. Perhaps they don't like the way I lick stamps, or pass gas, or......................................
I went and got rid of all their FT cookies, and still there is that advertising thing that expects you to either register for eight articles/month, or pay for three types of access. My guess is that you have registered with them for the eight free articles.

I'm not going to give them squat, because they will data mine the information, and I will be bugged with advertisements and things I don't wish to appear in my mail. I have enough trouble with Google and Facebook as it already is. Screw them!

See, what they do is let you see the front page, but when you try to access any specific article, you get all that horseshit every time. Screw them!

I'm not about to join another site just for a few articles, so they can use my personal information by selling it to others.

Here's what I keep getting:

[attachment=172]
Reuters March 23rd 2014 4:47 AM Wrote:Hollande braces for pain as French begin local vote, far right set for gains

PARIS (Reuters) - Voting got underway in France on Sunday in the first round of mid-term local elections that could hit the ruling Socialist party with potentially heavy mid-term losses, jeopardizing reforms.

Major gains are possible for the far-right National Front in the elections for mayors in towns and villages across the country.

Dissatisfaction with President Francois Hollande's rule - his approval rate is at record lows of 19 percent in opinion polls - and a string of legal issues involving opposition conservatives are seen hitting turnout and helping the anti-immigrant Front (FN), which hopes to win outright in a record number of towns.

Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault this week called on the opposition conservative UMP party to urge its voters to back Socialist candidates in towns where it stood no chance of election, promising the Socialists would do the same in a joint effort to keep out the FN out.

One Hollande aide forecast turnout of around 55 percent, about 10 points lower than normal, while recent polls have pegged it at around 60 percent.

The abstention rate reached 33.5 percent in the last town hall elections of 2008, a record that many fear could be topped.

"Voting is up to a slow start. In the first half hour since the bureau opened we have had about 15 voters while we usually have about twice that number in that kind of election," Charef Lhiou, a polling official at voting station 17 in the 9th district of Paris, told Reuters.

Polls will generally close at 6 pm (1700 GMT) although voting stations in big cities will remain open two hours longer.

Two days before the first round, former president Nicolas Sarkozy, expected to run for re-election in 2017, injected himself into the campaign when he wrote in Le Figaro that judges who ordered the tapping of his phones were acting like secret police from ex-communist East Germany.

The comments prompted a backlash from Hollande who said comparing France to a dictatorship was "intolerable". It was unclear how Sarkozy's comments would impact voters' choices.

The election, opened to France's 44.5 million registered voters, is the first mid-term test for Hollande since he won the presidency in May 2012.

Heavy losses for Hollande's Socialists could trigger a re-shuffle of the unpopular cabinet amid high unemployment and a sluggish economy and encourage backbench attacks of new pro-business policies on which Hollande has called a mid-year vote of confidence in his government.

Polls show the Socialists are favorite to hang on to Paris where the gaffe-prone efforts of the conservative candidate Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet to lure so-called "bobo" (bourgeois-bohemian) voters have been widely derided on social media.

But the right-wing incumbent in Marseille, the UMP's Jean-Claude Gaudin, looks set to win a new term in France's second city as rival Socialist candidate Patrick Mennucci suffers from his links to an unpopular government.

The emergence under Marine Le Pen of the National Front as France's third political force adds unpredictability with many of the March 30 run-offs set to be three-way contests.
Yeah, just register for ft.com and if you hit the limit, delete the cookies. I never get any emails from them. As for data mining, everyone does it, what is the worst thing they can discover? That you go to Beck's site for kiddie porn?
(03-23-2014, 11:50 PM)mv Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, just register for ft.com and if you hit the limit, delete the cookies. I never get any emails from them. As for data mining, everyone does it, what is the worst thing they can discover? That you go to Beck's site for kiddie porn?

You jealous man you. S13
(03-23-2014, 10:55 PM)Paul In Sweden Wrote: [ -> ]
Reuters March 23rd 2014 4:47 AM Wrote:Hollande braces for pain as French begin local vote, far right set for gains

What's with all this Far Right manure Paul? Why is it that Reuters, and other whores, have to demonize the right with being extreme? I thought the far right was anarchy. In other words no State intervention, just the opposite of Statist Left.

Am I just a little to exacting here?
(03-24-2014, 12:29 AM)John L Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-23-2014, 10:55 PM)Paul In Sweden Wrote: [ -> ]
Reuters March 23rd 2014 4:47 AM Wrote:Hollande braces for pain as French begin local vote, far right set for gains

What's with all this Far Right manure Paul? Why is it that Reuters, and other whores, have to demonize the right with being extreme? I thought the far right was anarchy. In other words no State intervention, just the opposite of Statist Left.

Am I just a little to exacting here?

Sometimes I think Reuters and other outlets would call Trotsky a member of the far right.
Well, they've been calling any Fascist a Far Right person, which is just lunacy. Of course, they tend to be far left, and view anything to the right of them as right wing. It must be a 'locational' thing. I remember Uncle Joe used to call Uncle Adolf a right winger. And he was to the right of Stalin, wasn't he? S6
(03-24-2014, 01:17 AM)John L Wrote: [ -> ]Well, they've been calling any Fascist a Far Right person, which is just lunacy. Of course, they tend to be far left, and view anything to the right of them as right wing. It must be a 'locational' thing. I remember Uncle Joe used to call Uncle Adolf a right winger. And he was to the right of Stalin, wasn't he? S6

The Fascists and the Commies have been lifting each others skirts and pulling the others pig tails for years. Why one would want to call the other Right is beyond my comprehension.
I can just picture the two leaders of the EU, Germany and France, being led by frumpy old women. Le Pen looks like a chip off her father's block. Holy Cow Batman! S18
Well, JohnL, because the far-right is fascist.
Poeple who vote for them knows what they vote for or doesn't. But when they take power we are in for a fascist state, state-controlled economy, new socialism, isolationism, protectionism, import duties, nationalist propaganda, and ... tribalistic nationalism.

All these parties are taking a new face, building an image of tolerance. The separatist party of Flanders, the NV-A even show a black on their website. But everybody knows they are right-wing fascists who want colored and different poeple out.

The problem is that when the socialists take power, the economy declines and poeple vote massively for the fascist party.
That's Pure-T BullShit Fred. Fascism is Left Wing, because it is Collectivist. If Marxism, and Socialism are Left Wing, then so is Fascism. You have been listening to all this Euro-PsycoBabble for too long.

Here, this great essay, by the Australian essayist and statistician, Dr. John J. Ray, tells it like it Really Is: MODERN LEFTISM AS RECYCLED FASCISM: Hitler was a Leftist, Fascism is Leftist. And last but not least, for a great history of Mussolini and his pet Fascist State, there is this article originally by a former Socialist turned Libertarian, David Ramsay Steele: The Mystery of Fascism. You can download it in PDF form right here. THat way you can take it out and reread it later, or pass on to your ignorant buddies. Its one of the best historical articles about Benito Mussolini there is.

If after reading the two essays above, you still think that Fascism is anything but Left Wing, you need to turn yourself in for therapy. S5

This is the Classic Example of why Winston Churchill wrote the following: “A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.” All this Right Wing baloney got started a long time ago, by Uncle Joe Stalin, and it has taken decades for the truth to get dressed and catch up with the lie. Well the lie is going down in flames. So it is time for you to finally get with the facts, and sin no more, ok? S22

You had better read these essays, because you WILL be tested at a later date. S5
John, I never said that the far-right was not leftist.
Please re-read my post above.
(03-25-2014, 06:48 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: [ -> ]John, I never said that the far-right was not leftist.
Please re-read my post above.

Fred, it is not possible to be 'far-right' and 'Leftist', all at the same time. Its akin to being pregnant and celibate at the same time.

My point is that this Euro definition of Far Right is Wacky. If far-left is Collectivist, then far-right is Individualist. That's just common sense. Yet everyone, including yourself, recognize that Collectivism is Left Wing, correct? So the logical next step is to apply it to the other side of the isle.

But either way, Please take the time and read those two essays. You will learn more about Fascism than you ever thought possible. In fact, you will be an expert. S5
Well... what's the problem with being pregnant and celibate?
But ok.

John, there is a saying that the far-right meets the far-left in the political hemicycle.

Most parliament rooms are circular and they do sit closer when they are on the extreme. With some stretch, they would sit next to each other behind the tribune.

Ideologicaly, it's true too. Nationalist politicians are not pro-business and not pro-individuals. They are for more governement, more control, more borders, more protectionism, etc...
One step more to the right and you meet the marxist-lennninists.

You don't imagine what the EU free movement for poeple and goods have made for the individual liberties. The far right wants to breaks that. They want to rise new barbed wire fences, not to stop immigration, but to better control and contain who is inside.
(03-26-2014, 04:04 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: [ -> ]Well... what's the problem with being pregnant and celibate?
But ok.

John, there is a saying that the far-right meets the far-left in the political hemicycle.

Yeah, that one has been around for a long time. But we are talking a sliding scale, not a rotating globe, ok?

Quote:Most parliament rooms are circular and they do sit closer when they are on the extreme. With some stretch, they would sit next to each other behind the tribune.

And the point here is.....................................?

Quote:Ideologicaly, it's true too. Nationalist politicians are not pro-business and not pro-individuals. They are for more governement, more control, more borders, more protectionism, etc...

Fred, you are using a broad brush here. In this country, there are a lot of politicians who are pro-business, and not for more government. But the longer they remain where they are, the more they are corrupted.

How about some form of term limits? What do you think of that one?

Quote:One step more to the right and you meet the marxist-lennninists.

Look above for my answer. You know, sliding scale, not rotating globe.

Quote:You don't imagine what the EU free movement for poeple and goods have made for the individual liberties. The far right wants to breaks that. They want to rise new barbed wire fences, not to stop immigration, but to better control and contain who is inside.

Sigh.............Fred, you are still stuck on Stupid here with that Euro-Socialist manure about 'Far Right'. The REAL far right is anarchy. No laws, no rules, no restrictions but self-restrictions. Sliding back to center are the Anarcho-Libertarians, and then moving more towards center are the mainline Liberals(classic)/Libertarians. In the center are the Federalists.

This stupid Euro-Centric idea of Far Right is Stupid, because it doesn't use logic. One more time, IT'S STUPID! And it originated from the Wussy Socialists, which go by the name of Social Democrats.

I wrote a post over at Brietbart, that explains this, so let me go there and see if I can find it to show you what I mean.

Ok, here it is. Its from this article in British Breitbart: Brussels Whistleblower Quits Politics Fearing a new 'Heil Hitler' Feeling. I wrote the following about the Wussy Socialist, who gave him that "Heil Hitler" feeling.

Quote:Yeah, its simply amazing how these Social Democrats, or what I like to label "Wussy Socialists", view the world. They are lodged in between the more ardent Socialists, who really are intent on nationalizing ALL means of production, and the Fascists, who are content with just a thin veneer of ownership. THEY are the "Moral, Above-It-All" Socialists, who are aghast at the violence required to maintain this perfect Utopian heaven on earth.

So they label others, who are not Collectivists as Faaaaaar Right kooks, just because they are to the right of them. And as all good Collectivist states are forced to do, they either collapse under their own weight, or resort to bloodshed in order to prolong the inevitable. And then they are "SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell you!" And in disbelief they gasp that "This is not what I had in mind." But its too late then. If the Collectivist state is using force, guess who are the very first ones to be marched out, stood against the wall, and put out of everyone else's misery?

G-d, I loathe and yet have pity on these elitists who think they can tame Collectivism, as long as it is just done the right way: their way.
Pages: 1 2