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I do not blame them one bit!

Best of luck, but I doubt Italy will let such a rich region go.
What have I been quoting John Naisbitt all this time about? Huh?

They have a legitimate historical claim to independence as well. My guess? They will eventually get it. S22
just send JohnL over, there is no country he cannot partition. S13
Hell yes. I'm all for secession. We probably need some of it as well. Andrew Cuomo is the perfect reason to part company. S6

Anything to reach that mystical two hundred sovereign countries by the year 2100. S5
(01-21-2014, 02:14 AM)John L Wrote: [ -> ]Hell yes. I'm all for secession. We probably need some of it as well. Andrew Cuomo is the perfect reason to part company. S6

Anything to reach that mystical two hundred sovereign countries by the year 2100. S5

Andrew! Andrew? OMG John I have not even recovered as a native New Yorker from Mario!
I've been meaning to write about that idiot, and his Fascistic rant at his State of the State address. I just didn't get around to it. My Bad!
Why would they want independance? What's wrong there?
There are about two dozen separatist movements here, some based on a dialect another on a pseudo-ethnic difference... but they don't have any good reason to do so. It's local political ballyhoo. Even the inhabitants of these regions don't take them seriousely.
Yeah, tribalism is much to do about nothing Fred. S22
In this case, definetly!
(01-21-2014, 12:48 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: [ -> ]Why would they want independance? What's wrong there?
There are about two dozen separatist movements here, some based on a dialect another on a pseudo-ethnic difference... but they don't have any good reason to do so. It's local political ballyhoo. Even the inhabitants of these regions don't take them seriousely.

Why would I want to be part of Italy if I am not Italian in language, ethnicity, culture and language?

Besides, Italians are Europe's Mexicans, and who would want to be Mexico?
Good point on the first part Tait.

However, I believe the second part not really accurate. If there is really a 'Europe's Mexicans', I believe Spain would be the best analogy. Italians are just too fun loving and crazy to be anything like Mexicans.

When I was on vacation in Germany(1965), while attending the Citadel, Stars & Stripes had an article where they used interesting descriptions to peg each nationality. Germans were naturally competitive and have a fit if you pass them on the autobahn; Dutch are into self-indulgence; Spanish are fixated on death(so many women in black). And Italians are crazy and loving it, while French are crazy and indignant about it. S5

And that is so true about both French and Italians.
Mexicans are also crazy and fun loving. They also inhabit a barely functional state, which is kind of what Italy is given the fact it's economy sucks and is up to its eyeballs in debt like many near failing states.

But yea, Spain and Italy can be like Europe's Latin America, to be more general. I think if I lived in South Tyrol, I would want to be away from that.
Italian's inability to change the ethnic makeup of the area in nearly a century attests to their sloppiness. S6
Yea, apparently none of the South Tyrolese want to breed with the Italians. You'd think resettlement would occur, or tons of Italians imported up there to breed out by reproduction and intermarriage the distinct nature of the place.

Maybe they should try genocide.
I know a lady who used to get stuff made in the Tyrol for a little local shop and she told me 30 years ago those people consider themselves a separate people and did not like Italy.
No. Italians are not Mexicanos (and I don't think Spaniards are neither thought they are obviousely closer). They were, somehow with the Portugese, 40 years ago, but not now anymore. It has changed since 1965. John, please update! You will love how they are arranging thier interior so beautifuly and with perfect finition.

Our Latinos today are Bulgarians and Romanians. These two countries are comparable with some countries South of al-Paso.

But Italy? Definetly not. Their governement is in debt but, like in the US, it's their governement. Italy is a wealthy, modern, clean, normal country. No, they don't ask tourists to go milk a goat if they want cream with their coffee.

If you are German speaking and live north of Italy, your life won't change if you join a Germanic nation or create your own. There is no difference in the way of life between north of Italy and Austria or Switzerland.

If anything, the North League (Italian right wing party) wants to part from the south because they are wealthier but it's an egoistic, stupid reaction which won't help them neither. + the North League is against the € currency, which is economicaly suicidal. They are the most pwerful separatist force in Italy and perhaps in Europe after the Flamish in Belgium and the Basque in Spain. But their chances of separating the country are no less tiny.
Quote:Our Latinos today are Bulgarians and Romanians.

You do realize that it Romanians and Italians are pretty much the same thing? Common language, common roots, the only difference is that the latter wash at least once a month.
I think they want out because they don't want to be attached to the dead weight that is most of the country.

Sort of like how Catalonia doesn't want to be the one attached to the dead weight and unproductiveness of the rest of Spain.
(01-21-2014, 06:48 PM)Gunnen4u Wrote: [ -> ]I think they want out because they don't want to be attached to the dead weight that is most of the country.

Sort of like how Catalonia doesn't want to be the one attached to the dead weight and unproductiveness of the rest of Spain.

Makes sense to me Tait.
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