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I know this is part of the MiddleEast Meltdown, but something tells me that Egypt is going to need its own thread, real soon. It seems like every day things keep getting worse there, and I believe Spengler may be the most prophetic on its future.

So let's begin the coming disintegration with this: Egyptians expect to 'see a lot of bloodshed'.

And pay close attention to this:

Quote:The Muslim Brotherhood, which gave the first revolution powerful muscle, has refused to take to the streets again, fearing the turmoil will derail elections it expects to dominate.

Once they gain control of the steering wheel, through democratic means, THEN they will take to the streets and show their muscle. Then the killing and tyranny will begin in earnest.

I wonder what percent of the existing population will become dead, disappeared, or forced to flee, before all is said and done?
Something tells me that Egypt is ripe for another military coup. Most of Egypt's officer is US trained, I doubt many of them want to live in an Islamic republic.
If a majority of Egyptians wanted an Islamic republic, there would be no violence.
A lot of Egyptians don't want Islamism and that's why they will be clashing with those who want it.

Egyptians are fed up and want a normal, representative governement. But many of them will refuse to let the country in the hands of the Islamists, even by democratic means.
If teh Brotherhood wins the election, they sure as hell will get a civil war.

Islamism is still popular, but to the cntrary of 10 years ago, anti-Islamism become popular too.

this new wave of islamism is facing hard times ahead.
Fred, the preferred means of obtaining power, in order to clamp down with tyranny, is that of democracy. The Arab Brotherhood will use it successfully to gain control, and then they will suddenly come up with an evil enemy that will require (you fill in the blank), and have the supreme council assume emergency powers.

Oh, and the preferred 'evil enemy' will be.............ta, ta,..............................guess who?
While they will be an important political force I'm not sure that Muslim Bros will win by a landslide in the elections.
They are not taking part in the Tahir Square protests because the protesters are too disparate, they don't control the protesters.
That makes them already on the sidelines. Poeple are not looking at them as a motor of the Jasmine Revolution.

The West and the Arab League are going to support el-Baradei against the Islamists.
(11-23-2011, 03:09 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: [ -> ]While they will be an important political force I'm not sure that Muslim Bros will win by a landslide in the elections.
They are not taking part in the Tahir Square protests because the protesters are too disparate, they don't control the protesters.
That makes them already on the sidelines. Poeple are not looking at them as a motor of the Jasmine Revolution.

The West and the Arab League are going to support el-Baradei against the Islamists.

And that should practically guarantee their election to power.

And once they gain power, look toward the following.
Whoever we "infidels" are for, you can assume the Muslims are not. Just recall, they typically do not think like us, they do not like infidels influencing their lives.

I wouldn't be for Muslims, Hindus, atheists or Zoroastrians from outside of here dictating who I chose over here either.
Here is exactly why Israel is working like crazy to get its Leviathan Oil field developed as quickly as possible: Saboteurs blow up Egypt gas pipeline to Jordan, Israel. The sooner Israel severs its dependence from any Arab country, including Egypt, the better off it will be strategically.
Egypt's election results are a disaster - Baradei.
36.4% voted islamists and 24.6% voted radical islamist.
51% voted for an islamic party. And this is likely to increase as the province where islamists have strong support still have to vote.

51% of islamic vote, in line of 51% of egyptian under the poverty treshold, and 24% of radical, in line with 20% of egyptian who are illiterate.

I predict sudanisation of Egypt within a year.

The degradation since the Queen of Sheba has been dramatic.
Just wait until the Second Exodus(non-Jewish this time), and the coming starvation, are complete.
(12-05-2011, 02:16 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: [ -> ]Egypt's election results are a disaster - Baradei.

How can people be so stupid?

If Baradei asked anyone on AI Jane, we would have told him what to expect, instead he (as well as the big brains in Washington) prefer to fook up and lament.

And John is right, the full scale of fook up is yet to be seen, this is just the top of the iceberg...
If Islamic Parties of Egypt win the elections, are they planning to implement Sharia Law?
As far as I know, Egypt have not experienced full Sharia Law since they got defeated by the Ottoman Empire in 1517.
I don't know if they had full Sharia Laws before 1517.
The blame is not on Baradei or on Obama, it's on Mubarak.
Kamill, 24% of egyptians vote for full sharia law, while another 36% vote for partial sharia law.
This country is dead as a democracy and as an economy IMO.
No Fred, the blame is not on the Bamster, or anyone in the West. The blame is on the 8th-9th century mentality of Islam. What is going to have to happen is for Egypt to get a serious dose of Islamo-Elexir so they can see just what they are getting,.........in Spades. About a decade, or two of all this ought to be about all they will be able to stand.

I'm still all for fencing in the entire area of Islam, and letting them show all of us how wonderful the 'Religion of Peace' does things peacefully.
In a few months, the Egyptians will be facing a food shortage and money shortage. No oil to export. Will reality sink in or will some kind of strange fanaticism take over? These problems will have to be dealt with or wished away in some burst of emotion.
Jt, what will occur is that the Islamic purists will do what every tyrannical power has done in the past: find a scapegoat to blame for their failures.

Now, can you guess who this 'scapegoat' will almost surely be? There are several million of them sitting almost next door, and naturally everyone in IslamoFobiaLand hates them to begin with.

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A title for a Ph.D. in some humanitarian science, or perhaps even a book:

Kill the Joo as the greatest motivational force in Human History
Fred is a little accurate, here's why. Mubarak spent his career imprisoning all opposition, not just Islamic radicals.

All the secular voices he oppressed, so when the change came, their voices are not resonating. Had they had a shot at influencing the society, maybe less of the Egyptians would be into Islamism today.
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