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Did someone opine that the Brits are good in suppressing riots? S6

London today:
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Not Muslims...
These Riots in London reminds me of the riots in France.

Same type of poeple, same circumstance (a guy was shot dead by police a few days before) etc...
But it's not muslim riots.

Michael Holden and Adrian Croft | Reuters Wrote:The disturbance was only finally brought under control on Sunday after hours of sporadic clashes. Buildings were still smouldering, bricks littered the roads and burglar alarms continued to ring out.
Rodney King Lives!
Just think of how much the economy is going to be stimulated, by all the construction work needed to rebuild all the destroyed buildings, automobiles, etc, etc. I know this is true, because Keynesians, such at that little Ferret Faced Collectivist at the New Yawk Times, who passes himself off as an economist, has told us.
How do they rationale that rioting and destroying a neighborhood is helping the family of the [alleged] gun runner/thug/gang member who was shot dead? From what I understood the rioters are pissed because the family has not been given proper information and comfort for 5 hours following the shooting of this thug. How does this help get justice for their fellow thug if there actually was a wrong doing on the part of the cops?

I've been round and round on other websites with some asshole from the UK who professes that America is a shit-hole ripe with violence. Americans are gun toting, hot headed, war mongering, slave keepers to this day. You should hear the shit he spews. Meanwhile, this shoot-out takes place in where? No guns allowed London. He gives you the (false of course) impression that it's all unicorns and rainbows over there when in reality, crime is just as bad if you take in the geographical size and population by comparison.

How do you justify riots like this one? All because the cops shot a bad guy?
Are the cops in the UK THAT corrupt? Or are the people just THAT fucked up over there?

I have plenty of English friends there and they never see this shit. They read about it in the news, are well aware there is a problem, but live in better neighborhoods so not to see it first hand. Well, except for one back in the 70's when all that IRA stuff was hot and heavy. Her apartment wall was blown out by a bomb. Another friend was a cop in the UK and she thinks all cops should carry guns and be allowed to have the freedom American cops have to use them. They also take a cop's gun away when they leave the force or retire there.



From THIS article:

Quote:The trouble broke out on Saturday night following a peaceful demonstration over the shooting of Mark Duggan, 29, who was killed after an exchange of gunfire with police on Thursday. Duggan's death is now being investigated by the independent police watchdog.

The riots also come amid deepening gloom in Britain, with the economy struggling to grow amid deep public spending cuts and tax rises brought into help eliminate a budget deficit which peaked at more than 10 percent of GDP.

"Tottenham is a deprived area. Unemployment is very, very high ... they are frustrated," said Uzodinma Wigwe, 49, who was made redundant from his job as a cleaner recently.
Quote:who was made redundant
Lovely phrasing here. S2
Joan, I don't dare imagine what would have been had all the rioter come with guns. So far they threw only bricks and molotov cocktails.
(08-07-2011, 01:37 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: [ -> ]Joan, I don't dare imagine what would have been had all the rioter come with guns. So far they threw only bricks and molotov cocktails.

Rioters in the US do same thing Fred. Use of firearms is very rare, and usually consists of mostly thrown projectiles.
Yeah but all those families out of homes - probably including the ones they rioted/protested over. Seems utterly counter productive to me.

And yeah, I'll have to agree with John - it's really rare when you see a gunfight at a riot. It's always all about destruction and not murder.
That's right Joan, if guns are being used, the protesters will be entering building, in order to root out the enemy, and not in the streets making noise and trashing things.
Related, I believe.

It will be very interesting if they pass the law...all the European Rights Defenders should be apoplectic.
(08-07-2011, 09:25 PM)mv Wrote: [ -> ]Related, I believe.

It will be very interesting if they pass the law...all the European Rights Defenders should be apoplectic.

Hey, if all this new fangled, welfare state, Political Correctness, feel-good, I'm Ok, You're Ok, Tax and Spend, debt ridden, madness is proving not to work, then the return to traditions is the only thing left, right?

And if one of those traditional things is capital punishment, it's part of the entire package deal.

yeah...but traditional is hanging, this is what made Britain great, lethal injection is again "feel-good, I'm Ok, You're Ok" chickenshit. S13
(08-07-2011, 04:23 PM)Joan Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah but all those families out of homes - probably including the ones they rioted/protested over. Seems utterly counter productive to me.

And yeah, I'll have to agree with John - it's really rare when you see a gunfight at a riot. It's always all about destruction and not murder.

They are generally animals just reacting to one of their own being taken down by the enemy. I never saw riots of the Tucson shooting or whatever. Go figure.
No Gunnen, you don't see the level of riots here like you do in Europe.
(08-08-2011, 09:13 AM)Joan Wrote: [ -> ]No Gunnen, you don't see the level of riots here like you do in Europe.

He's currently in the middle of an intellectual "Bull In The China Shop" routine. I'm hoping he will eventually run out of steam soon. S13

I'm not being snarky with him, I'm agreeing and just adding my 2ยข
(08-07-2011, 01:06 PM)Joan Wrote: [ -> ]How do they rationale that rioting and destroying a neighborhood is helping the family of the [alleged] gun runner/thug/gang member who was shot dead? From what I understood the rioters are pissed because the family has not been given proper information and comfort for 5 hours following the shooting of this thug. How does this help get justice for their fellow thug if there actually was a wrong doing on the part of the cops?

bravo! the typical obedient citizen has spoken, one who would never question any act of her government and its police, and if they kill somebody, he must have been a thug, naturally. you might remember the case of a jean charles de menezes who was shot by london police in the aftermath of the london bombings because they thought he looked middle east, but he was from brazil actually. police, witnesses and media accounts contradicted each other (exactly what happens now again), and the inquiry against the police led to nothing, no verdict. that's the license to kill, and i sort of understand that some people don't agree with it.

turns out that the bullet alledgedly fired by the man killed by the police this time was police issue. he was 29, married to the same woman since the age of 17, and had 3 kids with her.

if you want to know a real english thug, meet mr copeland. a christian right-wing wacko famous for his nail bombs a decade ago. i don't think your media ever reported, he's no muslim after all. here one of his victims, a baby with a nail in his brain.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copeland
Oh STFU. I am not the "typical obedient citizen" and if you have not figured that out by now, you're just a shit slinger throwing shit around to rile me. Or stupid. Take your pick.

I said ALLEGED. SO fucking sorry I didn't say it enough times for you in my comment. You have a serious reading comprehension problem.

It still does not justify burning down a town because someone was delayed information for 5 hours.

And, are you saying anyone married to the same woman and had three kids is by default an upstanding citizen without any ties to any crime?

I never sided with police or the person getting shot. I'm discussing the rioting and rioters justification of burning down a town and destroying innocent people's homes and livelihoods.
Where are you getting the idea that the homeowners in the area are innocent?

At the very least they are guilty of voting for the governments that brought in third world gangs....they are getting what they deserve. S2
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