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I suspect that most of the forum's posters noticed that the absurdness of the political/economic/scientific developments in the last decade... well, perhaps there is an explanation now.

According to the study, a large group of drugs, both off-the-shelf and prescription, impair cognitive ability. Given that the list is large, it stands to reason that nearly the entire western leadership has been lobotomized... and perhaps some of the forum posters as well? S6

Here is a partial list of cognition impairment poisons:

Quote:Benadryl®, Dramamine®, Excedrin PM®, Nytol®, Sominex®, Tylenol PM®, Unisom®, Paxil®, Detrol®, Demerol® and Elavil®

Now, combine the effect of these substances with behavior modification done with Prozac® et al, and it should be clear why we have trillions of dollars of deficits, invading all these Lybias and witness various boobsy community organizers running somewhere...

Anyway, I suggest you go through the list carefully... if any of the meds names sound familiar, perhaps it is the time to save the world from your continuous presence? S18
Why do you include Fluoxetine, i.e. Prozac, in your list of evils? Last time I looked, it was an SSRI, not an Anticholinergic, as the article addresses?


As an aside, I take fluoxetine, and don't see as it hinders my cognitive abilities. In fact, it gives me the ability to go through life, and not be eternally depressed. I assume you are using 'tongue-in-cheek', correct?
(06-24-2011, 03:59 PM)John L Wrote: [ -> ]Why do you include Fluoxetine, i.e. Prozac, in your list of evils? Last time I looked, it was an SSRI, not an Anticholinergic, as the article addresses?

The article provides only a partial answer to the big picture.

The current leadership of the West is aggressive and dumb. The examples of dumb aggression are aplenty: Clinton attacks Serbia, Shrub attacks Iraq, Obama attacks Libya and US economy, Boobs are flashing Boobs and opining all too often... I can go on, but you don't want me to use all the forum storage allocation with examples, do you? S6

Now, anticholinergic meds explain DUMB. Clearly there is another set of meds that explain AGGRESSIVE. Could be SSRI's, could be cholesterol-reducing drugs, could be botox, could be good old cocaine... but something is out there, otherwise the world does not make sense. SSRI's are probably the best candidate....and watch for he 2nd shoe to drop in due course. S23
I can't say whether or not you are on to something. Perhaps I'm just too dumb to realize that. S7
Too much Tylenol? Wink1

Actually, there was a historical precedent of chemically-modified society... the extreme craziness of Roman Emperors is traceable to lead poisoning. And there should be no doubts that at least some of the thousands of new chemical compounds affect brain in yet unknown ways. We know some connections, like the link between Cool-Aid and Obama-Voting, but there is much more we don't know.


and don't forget the chemicals that they pump into our food and drinks now.

hell, some foods are also causing children to develop puberty much earlier, young as 7-10 years old. I was one of them, actually. I started getting...*ahem* certain developments at nine years old that I shouldn't had gotten until I was at least 13-14 years old. stuck out like a sore thumb in my class. >.< also had some people think that I was held back when I weren't. they were surprised to learn that I was in fact nine years old, and not 13.

And naturally this also leads to young kids being hormonally stupid AND horny. which of course is a very dangerous combo. S5
This can lead to hormonal young kids getting pregnant, and having this affect their education. thankfully, I wasn't stupid enough to have sex at that age... but I've seen how this could affect others.

I've heard of 7-8 year old girls getting pregnant-- because their parents thought that they were too young to have sexual impulses, and therefore would be safe to leave them alone with boys their ages.. who incidentally might be going though the same changes as the girls.

And even if the said 7-year-old didn't get pregnant, getting puberty before all the other kids also can cause poor self-esteem images... espeically if it's many years before the other kids would catch up with her.
And with self-esteem problems, kids tend to feel like outcasts that stick out like a sore thumb at school. And if they aren't comfortable in school, then they don't do very well at all.
A good example, indeed.

I have a friend who got lead poisoning. He didn't go crazy, but, he was sick for a month. Just smelling the fumes caused his problem.
Aurora Moon, I suspect the problem of girls having early puberty is more pronounced than with boys, because the girls are eating hamburgers and steaks made from cows that were dosed with female hormones (estrogen). This is done because female hormones cause more fat to be stored in the body, which is considered desirable in beef. Of course if girls consume foods dosed with female hormones, they are going to undergo female puberty sooner than nature intended! I don't know of any cases where male hormones (testosterone) are added to foods. Only to some football linemen and baseball bashers. Which would only be of dietary concern to anthropophagites.

Of course, who is to say there may not be some unnatural consequences for the boys eating hamburgers and steaks made from beef dosed with female hormones?
I agree there.

and don't forget about the chemicals in water though:
http://ag.arizona.edu/AZWATER/awr/july00/feature1.htm
http://toxics.usgs.gov/highlights/pharm_watershed/

read those. You would certainly agree that it was disturbing that there's so much chemicals in our drinking water, espeically that of tap water.

now picture how it would affect our children, espeically boys? hell some people already suspect that it has an effect on unborn children-- causing them to be intersex just like the fish in one of the studies.
more children are being born intersex nowadays, according to some studies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

as for the effect of female hormones on young boys here's a article on the effect on grown men: http://www.livestrong.com/article/54614-...-hormones/

and then try to imagine what effect it might on young boys who had not yet developed fully yet.
lol. I filter my own water and also buy gallons of pure water. I also eat only organic foods mostly.

you can't go wrong if you do that. S1
Yes you can because it is boring. I would die of such boring wonderful health.
lol. I suppose it's okay to choose to eat such things not caring what happens to yourself.

although I have to say, if I had children I would be severely disturbed by the thought of my children having precious puberty. I've even heard of five-year-olds getting periods. I imagine it must be so very fun having to explain to a five-year-old why they're having their period.

I would never let them eat at Mcdonald's for this very reason. :p not to mention I always thought their food was crap anyway.
MV, if the Chinese have such healthy diets, then why are they so small on average--and when they move to the USA and begin eating an American diet, their children grow up to be larger, what we would consider normal size? Americans even tend to be larger on average than Europeans--even though most of us are European descended ourselves. Maybe it is the soil.
Ron, certain population segments of Chinese are naturally tall. After the Cultural revolution, in which they were short due to malnutrition, they became tall again, with better food.
(06-26-2011, 10:46 AM)Ron Lambert Wrote: [ -> ]MV, if the Chinese have such healthy diets, then why are they so small on average--and when they move to the USA and begin eating an American diet, their children grow up to be larger, what we would consider normal size? Americans even tend to be larger on average than Europeans--even though most of us are European descended ourselves. Maybe it is the soil.

With regards to Europe, Americans are bigger than the last few generations of Europeans because of the WW2 years and subsequent food shortages and severe rationing in the years following. We had plenty to eat of all sorts of foods, much of Europe didn't.