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Helium

March 28,2011

Terrence Aym

EXCERPT:

Geologic records show that Ice Ages are the norm, punctuated by brief periods of warming. Now one of the most highly respected paleoclimatologists has weighed in and is warning everyone to prepare for a new Ice Age.

A new Ice Age? Then what's all the brouhaha about man-made global warming over the past 20 years?

George Kukla, 77, retired professor of paleoclimatology at Columbia University and researcher at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory responds,....

http://www.helium.com/items/2125333-prep...matologist
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We are right on schedule for it to start taking off.
Whoa!

I get the chills just thinking about it.
JohnWho Wrote:Whoa!

I get the chills just thinking about it.

Go tell that to "Q". He's all hot and bothered over the size of some statue's Johnson. He could probably use some 'cool' logic. S6
Let's assume he is accurate,what does this mean for summer and winter temps in Tennessee?
Palladin Wrote:Let's assume he is accurate,what does this mean for summer and winter temps in Tennessee?

This help?

http://globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums...ml#pid4703
Kinda scary! Thanks.
As long as it keep the humidity down around here I welcome it. I thrive at 30-40 degrees B)
ghoullio Wrote:As long as it keep the humidity down around here I welcome it. I thrive at 30-40 degrees B)

Oh you won't have to worry about humidity Kris. If the planet actually does enter the next round soon, most of the 'humidity' will be locked up in ice sheets, and the ocean level will drop by over one hundred metres.

This means that the planet will be Dry, dry, dry. Deserts will be the norm, and humans will have to adapt to dry conditions, which are also colder.

let me see if I can find those drawings of the planet at different times.

Ok, here is what the planet looks like right now.

[Image: present_mod.gif]

Now look at the "extreme desert" part. Not part of this is the American Southwest/north Mexico. Not part of this is the Australian Outback, or parts of South Africa, except that tiny strip. They are still desert, but not "Extreme".

Now, check out this map, 18,000 years BP, and look at the "extreme" desert.

[Image: lastgla_mod.gif]

The amount of "extreme" desert is Huge, but that will not include All of the planet's deserts. My guess is that most of the white areas will be dry, desert conditions too, because there will be so little moisture in the atmosphere. Most of it will be in the ice sheets.

Now, here is what the planet looked like 8,000 years ago, at the height of this Holocene, when it was a lot warmer than it is today. The AGW Ecko-Wackos are either not informed, or they conveniently forget to mention all this.

[Image: earlyho.gif]

If you compare this map to today's map, it is readily apparant that the planet was a whole lot greener back then, and places on the planet were not as dry. The Sahara and SA were not "extreme" desert either.

So, what's all this AGW hysteria all about anyway? It's pure bunk. And what we really have to fear is the coming ice age. And make no doubt, this planet is going to have more ice ages, and like clockwork too.

And the reasons for this? First is the Malankovich Cycles, which determine how much sun reaches the planet over a long period of time. As the saying goes, "It's the sun Stupid!"

But second, is a little thing that started the recent rounds ice ages rolling in the first place:the Pleistocene . I'm talking about that tiny little stretch of land that links North and South America: the Isthmus of Panama. Between 4 and 3.5 million years ago, the plates merged together and all the warm water interchange bringing warm ocean from the Pacific to the Atlantic stopped. This led to a cooler Atlantic, and the rest is history. If the Isthmus was not there, in spite of the Malankovich Cycles, we would not have ice ages, because warmer waters would make it up to the north latitudes more easily.

So, get ready, we are just past the crest of warm weather, and just like the rollercoaster, which has gone over the top, it is slowly moving downward, and will continue to pick up steam over time. We cannot stop it, and all this attempt to stop the warming is a total waste. In fact, we should be trying to warm the planet, not cool it down.

As the Basic Laws of Human stupidity state in rule number one, Always and inevitably everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
Wow,I forgot all those charts.

It sure drives home the point that a warmer climate is better than a cooler climate.

Good catch!
I doubt that the transition to an ice age would take as little as 10 years. But I suspect that the transition can be brief, probably on the 100 year time scale.

In any event, we seem to be due for a mini (solar laziness) or maxi (seminal shift) ice age.

Snowfall has to move southward and last longer on the ground before one can confirm an ice age, I wot.
jt Wrote:I doubt that the transition to an ice age would take as little as 10 years. But I suspect that the transition can be brief, probably on the 100 year time scale.

In any event, we seem to be due for a mini (solar laziness) or maxi (seminal shift) ice age.

Snowfall has to move southward and last longer on the ground before one can confirm an ice age, I wot.

You're right about a full blown ice age not happening overnight..............usually. If you look at the Younger Dryas cooling, it was almost instantaneous. That was because we got hit by a comet, the Clovis Comet, just as the planet was coming out of the last glaciation. If that happens, all bets are off.

But usually the change is preceded by strange climate conditions, where the world seems to be haywire.
sunsettommy Wrote:Helium

March 28,2011

Terrence Aym

EXCERPT:

Geologic records show that Ice Ages are the norm, punctuated by brief periods of warming. Now one of the most highly respected paleoclimatologists has weighed in and is warning everyone to prepare for a new Ice Age.

A new Ice Age? Then what's all the brouhaha about man-made global warming over the past 20 years?

George Kukla, 77, retired professor of paleoclimatology at Columbia University and researcher at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory responds,....

http://www.helium.com/items/2125333-prep...matologist
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We are right on schedule for it to start taking off.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

This guy has been saying that we are headed for another ice age for the last 40 years!! He is actually one of the scientists that were quoted in that 1975 Newsweek article that many denialists use to discredit climate scientists.

And here is what many scientists think about the ice age that we should be going into right now.

Next Ice Age Delayed By Rising Carbon Dioxide Levels
Quote:Dr Tyrrell's team used a mathematical model to study what would happen to marine chemistry in a world with ever-increasing supplies of the greenhouse gas, carbon dioxide.

Mathematical Model

Quote:Computer modelling in 2004 by a then oceanography undergraduate student at the University, Stephanie Castle, first interested Dr Tyrrell and colleague Professor John Shepherd in the problem. They subsequently developed a theoretical analysis to validate the plausibility of the phenomenon.

Computer Modeling

Quote:The work, which is part-funded by the Natural Environment Research Council, confirms earlier ideas of David Archer of the University of Chicago, who first estimated the impact rising CO2 levels would have on the timing of the next ice age.

David Archer who also wrote climate Models.



Modeling does not create data.

Meanwhile Dr.Kukla is using real data and the fact that we are right at the end of the usual length of a interglacial period.

The next Ice Age surge can now come any time.
Buzz Wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:

This guy has been saying that we are headed for another ice age for the last 40 years!! He is actually one of the scientists that were quoted in that 1975 Newsweek article that many denialists use to discredit climate scientists.

:lol: :lol: Buzz, you have a time context like my Shih-tzu. All I have to do is go shopping, or running errands, and when I return, he thinks I have been gone for weeks. You have the typical canine mentality. The truth is that, I for one, have been stating this for a few years only; not twenty as you insinuate. Ever since reading articles by Dr. Landscheidt, and learning about the Barycenter movements of the sun around the actual center of the solar system, I have been putting two and two together.

And you Sirah, have a problem with simple addition or subtraction, so I don't expect you to even remotely comprehend facts. Hell, you are a worshiper of the Boy Wonder, so that speaks volumes for you.

But thanks for your ability to stir up the pot. I honestly appreciate it, since it helps the rest of us know just what the Kook Left Fringe is using for intellect these days.

Have you managed to beat any protesters lately? S6
Buzz is right about one thing, and that is the good Doctor Kuklas has been stating the same thing for a long time. That is because the statement is accurate and irrefutable.

What he said is as important and sound now as it has always been: the dominant state of the Earth is glaciation with short intervals of sporadic warming called interglacials. We are due for a cooling cycle.
We are getting started on our desert early.

Oklahoma driest Since Dust Bowl
WmLambert Wrote:Buzz is right about one thing, and that is the good Doctor Kuklas has been stating the same thing for a long time. That is because the statement is accurate and irrefutable.

What he said is as important and sound now as it has always been: the dominant state of the Earth is glaciation with short intervals of sporadic warming called interglacials. We are due for a cooling cycle.
an ice age would be desirable indeed, they started the evolution of humans, after all. the next push might lead to more brain, most of your comrades could certainly use it.
WmLambert Wrote:Buzz is right about one thing, and that is the good Doctor Kuklas has been stating the same thing for a long time. That is because the statement is accurate and irrefutable.

What he said is as important and sound now as it has always been: the dominant state of the Earth is glaciation with short intervals of sporadic warming called interglacials. We are due for a cooling cycle.
an ice age would be desirable indeed, they started the evolution of humans, after all. the next push might lead to more brain, most of your comrades could certainly use it.
Evolution doesn't happen over night,Q. If anyone were to benefit from this, it would be our spawn, not the Leftists, the abortionists and certainly not the homos.

No, Q, im sorry but the benefits of evolution fall on the rednecks, they're the only ones still boning copiously.
Evolution doesn't happen over night,Q. If anyone were to benefit from this, it would be our spawn, not the Leftists, the abortionists and certainly not the homos.

No, Q, im sorry but the benefits of evolution fall on the rednecks, they're the only ones still boning copiously.
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