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Venezuela's Hugo Chavez Rations Electricity
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What a shocker.



HERE
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#2
I give it a few more years before they are really in the dumps.

This a sign of things to come?
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Palladin Wrote:What a shocker.

Ya think? Here's the real crux of the collectivist biscuit ...

Quote:Energy consumption has increased 25 percent since 2004, driven by an oil boom while electricity rates remained frozen -- giving Venezuelans little financial incentive to conserve power.

Making services 'free' or placing them under heavy, subsidized, government control is a sure fire way to turn things to sh*t.

Expect to start hearing about coming 'freezes' as we enter the dreaded Phase 2 of Healtcare 'reform'. Rationing is already part of the current plan.
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
-- Henry Mencken
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#4
Maybe everything will be fine,maybe Obama will subsidize their high consumptions rates with money China may not loan us to cure Global warming,stay tuned/
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Quote: President Hugo Chavez has also blamed climate change, but his opponents accuse the government of failing to plan adequately or invest enough in electrical projects to meet growing demand.

He is always blaming the wrong thing/people. He should look in the mirror, and also consider his Command Economy principles first. but he won't, because he is a prefect little Collectivist, and knows better what the people really need.
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#6
Although it is dishonorable,I think lots of these leaders are going to raise cain on AGW to get their handouts and in a perverse way,we cannot blame them.

Again,it is dishonrable,but,if you had a thoughtless delusional uncle who would give you a million because he believed it would save the world,you might take it.
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#7
if you want to badger against chavez, don't forget to mention that the guri dam destroyed thousands of square miles of forest formerly renowned for its biodiversity and rare wildlife.
"You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter." Dick Cheney
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#8
Who is Guri Dam?

Chavez is now after car makers.
Sodomia delenda est

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#9
LOL

Quote:Mr Chavez attacked Toyota in particular, saying it was not producing enough four-wheel drive vehicles, which are used for public transport, and ordered an investigation.

Because no one (public sector too), can afford to buy them and create a market?

Now he is ordering everyone around like he runs the industries, oh wait, that is what is doing a swift job of attempting to do.

I give it about 5 - 10 more years before Venezuela is utterly reduced to a failed state.
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mv Wrote:Who is Guri Dam?

Chavez is now after car makers.

Quote:Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez has told car companies they must share their technology with local businesses or leave the country.

If the demand isn't met, he said: "I invite you to pack up your belongings and leave. I'll bring in the Russians, the Belorusians, the Chinese."

Yeah, why not share their own 'stolen' technology. LOL!! Note that in the ideal Collectivist State, there is no such thing as private property rights. Property is shared by Everyone, which means really no one,......but the State.

Welcome to Collectivist LaLa Land. EVERYBODY should be studying Venezuela as the classic testing ground for how successful Collectivist ideology really works. It should be included in Every text book, for the next century, showing how Collectivism works, even in a less than brutal regime. We already know how it fails, in such examples as CCCP, PRC, and Nazis. Now, we have the case of the somewhat peacefully coercive state in action. We still haven't witnessed which way it will go; either complete failure, or violent dictatorship.
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#11
That's a 50 year old factory,I expect Toyota might walk out on it in due time. I'd destoy it first myself.

BTW,here's a pessimistic view of the global debt problem,hopefully way off base:

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#12
I don't expect it to be all that far off base. He gave two scenarios to choose from. Perhaps the truth is somewhere in between.

Just imagine this: collectivism finally laid to rest, as a result of having to face Hard Reality.
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#13
John,

Society might not reach that conclusion no matter how bad it got. They control large media assets,free market ideas will always be under assault,regardless of the paradigm.

If Peters was close to accurate,they may succeed in convincing everyone we neede3d more not less collectivist ideas,to solve the greed problem,etc.
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#14
Ho wait, THIS IS a thread against Obama!
Palladin and Yak started so well but you all continued OFF-TOPIC with Chavez... S4
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Fredledingue Wrote:Ho wait, THIS IS a thread against Obama!
Palladin and Yak started so well but you all continued OFF-TOPIC with Chavez... S4

You are correct Fred, let's get back to Uncle Ugo. Wink1
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Gunnen4u Wrote:LOL

Quote:Mr Chavez attacked Toyota in particular, saying it was not producing enough four-wheel drive vehicles, which are used for public transport, and ordered an investigation.

Because no one (public sector too), can afford to buy them and create a market?

Now he is ordering everyone around like he runs the industries, oh wait, that is what is doing a swift job of attempting to do.

I give it about 5 - 10 more years before Venezuela is utterly reduced to a failed state.
Less. Seems like the slide is accelerating as we watch.
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Biker Dude Wrote:Less. Seems like the slide is accelerating as we watch.

I tend to agree, unless he becomes another murdering tyrant. He will come to a fork in the road soon, and will have to decide if keeping power is worth thousands murdered in order to keep everyone in line. If not, he will be shown the back door.

I wonder if he too has a jet, on the tarmac, that is always ready to go, in case he needs to make a sprint out of the country?
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#18
Fred.........no one is attacking your new religious figure, unless of course, you consider Chavez one of his disciples. We did do a bit of speculating on his relationship with these people though.

No, I suspect he'll get really militant and start seriously crushing any opposition to him when things get really bad. Rather than let go, they are like raccoons who won't let go of the shiny object to get it's hand out of the hole.

BD, I was being optimistic.
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#19
Fred,

You know what? Obama proposes to pay states like Venezuela ,it was the main sticking point for the failure of Copenhagen's meeting,he couldn't offer enough because as pitiful as the US polity is we're not going to be raped too much quite yet by all the global socialists and Obama knew he couldn't get more from congress right now.


So,the comment about Obama stealing from free Americans to help pay Venezuela's energy bills is not only likely,we already have it documented on record Obama proposed specific amounts for starters.

You can make your childish jokes as you wish,some Americans and maybe even a European or 2 doesn't freely join being thieved to enhance the rule of men like Chavez.
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#20
To those who started to think I turned leftist: I agree with you!
Chavez is slowly turning Venezuela into an economic wreck.
Poll: Will he do it faster or slowlier than Mugabe?

Palladin
No, O' didn't offer money to states like Venezuela. Only to developing countries. I don't think it includes Venezuela which is a net oil exporter.
But I said several times that such proposal will fail because it's not possible to give money to dicatures and such anti-west phenonmenon.
I even don't think it's realistic to give money to anyone. And that's why I think the Copenhagen protocol will go bust.

Thought O' is my new religious figure and that I tend to think that he knows the truth from God himself, I don't agree with everything he does or says.
Same with the Pope LOL.
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