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#21
Baldar,

"Those that be" are those over me.

My companies assets are $3,767,923,400 USD. Net is about 65%.

As I said, they are a huge multi-conglomerate.

They started their shipping arm in 1998, and have asked me to build their US operations. That said, they really show no interest in putting forth the effort to build, and rumor has it my boss' boss is trying to negotiate the purchase of an American company as we speak. Got it? Wink1

This is why I am a little uncertain about my future, and role in the company.

Nick
Formerly- KFS
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#22
I would go to your boss's boss and see if you can be on the acquisition team and combing the two. That being said, I can also see how you might feel your own job in jeopardy.
"I detest the man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart and speaks forth another"
-Homer
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#23
My "real" name is Mark. I was born near London, England, in 1974 to a father serving the United States Airforce as an intelligence officer. My family (two older sisters, mother and father) did not stay long - at nine months, we flew home to the states, bought a "apple green" Chevy station wagon in New York, bundled all our stuff together, and drove to our new home in Great Falls, Montana. Again, our stay was short - my father decided to go "inactive" and take up a civilian career (a heartbreaking move for someone who had always wanted to be career Air Force for all his life). We moved to Spokane, Washington shortly before my third birthday, and I have little memory of living anywhere else during my first 18 years.

In Spokane, my father retrained and found himself a career as a stockbroker. An honest stockbroker, which was unfortunate for our finances - it's hard to make money as a stockbroker if you aren't constantly moving people's money around, and my father wouldn't do that - he understood the market, and economics, and was trying to help people make money without taking risks they weren't willing to take. My mother became a school teacher in a local elementary school, and my sisters and I became "latchkey" kids. I will never know how my mother was able to keep us as well feed as she did, nor how we were able to do as many things as we did. We never had a lot of money (though things were looking much better for us in the late eighties), but I was able to join the Boy Scouts, go to quite a few summer camps, and travel much of the west coast (Canada, too) (and some of the south and east coast!). I never felt poor, or underprivileged, though I did resent the fact that "name brand" stuff was forever off-limits, and that some of the cooler toys were never available to me without raising the money myself.

As for me, as a child I was nothing special. Apparently rather cute (where did that go?!), but not overly bright or quick. I was mostly interested in cars & trucks, and was pretty shy - keeping to myself. My first two years in elementary school (kindergarten and first grade) pretty much held to that pattern. But in first grade, at some point, I remember my teacher commenting that I had very nice handwriting. I don't know if that's what did it for me, but suddenly I found myself "getting" the whole reading thing, and I catapulted past the reading group I was in, up to the front runners, and then beyond them. I don't know what my reading level was by the end of first grade, but my librarian couldn't keep up with supplying me books. By third grade, I'd devoured Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, and every single science fiction book my father owned. I'd also went through most of the mystery novels, science fiction and fantasy novels that were in my school library. Anyway, my teachers saw me reading "Return of the King", decided I needed to have my IQ re-tested. This was third grade. I had a great teacher in third grade, who had a husband that somehow acquired an Apple II for her classroom. There was a program on it called Logo that had a little turtle that you could "program" into drawing things for you. I REALLY liked that, so I used it all I could. I ended up doing a demonstration to the teachers and parents in the district, as some sort of "look how computers can be used to enhance teaching" thing. Unfortunately, my "IQ test" was the same day, and I was a bit distracted. Ah well - I would have been wasted in the "Genius IQ" club anyway S1.

Well, from there, I did pretty well in my public school "career" - earning high grades, not really ever studying, making things hard for teachers that didn't know their subject area as well as I did, having a weird set of friends and acquaintances that seemed to completely ignore the "cliche" system. I was very active in boy scouts, running my own troop for many many years, getting my eagle, going to the National Jamboree in Washington, D.C. (serving as honour guard for President Bush, shaking his hand, then watching the Secret Service manhandle the guy off the steps behind the stage, looking like some drunk and disorderly getting roughed up by the police on the way to jail...). I graduated high school in 1992, with a few honours, a lot of good friends, a scholarship here or there, and in preparation for attending the University of Southern California the next fall, having been accepted to their architecture school with my reasonable grades and high SAT score.

In college, I found a lot of good friends. I had realized that I thought I was a Christian, but wasn't, as a senior in high school - I quickly attempted to educate myself on the subject to see if I thought being a Christian was the right thing to do (I decided it was, after a lot of searching). In college, I joined a group called Intervarsity Christian Fellowship, and found myself with more close friends than I'd ever thought I could possibly have. My social schedule was extremely full, and I was quickly exposed to more cultures, more "economic backgrounds", more DIVERSITY than I had ever thought possible - and I reveled in it. I found myself have lunch with a homeless guy, dinner with a prince from the United Arab Emirates, and an all-night discussion with people from every corner of the globe. Unfortunately, while I was learning a lot inside and outside of class, I found that I had never learned to study, or really even do homework, and it showed in my grades. I also did a poor job keeping up with the administration of being in college, and after my second year, I was denied any financial aid. Even with my parents doing well financially (better than ever before), we were not able to realistically spend $25,000/yr. for three more years of college, and I ended up at my parent's house for the next year, separated from my friends and dreams, trying to come up with another plan.

The plan, in the end, was for me to move to Portland, work for a year, establish residency, and return to school (to start over) at the University of Oregon. Instead, I moved to Portland, got a job at the company that Netscape had outsourced their technical support to, rose up to being one of their top "techs", finding myself fielding management duties and starting to utilitize the odd bits and pieces of programming classes I had taken. I ended up transferring to a team that handled Sprint's Internet service, and quickly found myself extremely bored. Lucky for me, a former boss was now running a technical support team at a different company, and was looking for a programmer - and I got the job! I've been working as a programmer now since 1997, and found that it provides a perfect venue for my creative urges, while allowing someone who has no real artistic talent to still create "beautiful things". Currently, I own and run two small businesses, one an information technology consulting business, another a "payment service" provider, and work a full time job as a programmer/analyst.

Politically, I've always been a bit of an idealist, with a heavy streak of realism. This has lead me to, at times, label myself as a Republican. However, at this point, many of my core values are no longer championed by the Republic party, and I've taken to labeling myself as a fiscal conservative, social libertarian, and environmental "steward". I like much of the viewpoint of the libertarian party, but I don't really believe that there are enough smart people (who aren't too lazy) in the world to make their proposals work well. I feel that we must balance our approach to government - the best government affects our life only when it is the only choice. It should protect us, and our freedom. Sometimes, this means it needs to regulate to protect our environment, to provide a net for those that aren't being taken care of, to dismantle threats to our society and well being that cannot be handled by the private sector. But we MUST minimize the interference - the government is rarely, if ever, the most effective choice for "righting the wrongs" and "protecting the weak".

The reason that I am pursuing this board, and why I post and read the Ornery forum, is that I seek to better "know the truth". I don't believe I will ever fully understand or know even a single "truth", but I believe that it is right and good to seek them out, to incorporate them in my understanding of the world around me. I believe that, to be healthy, we must confront what is real, accept it, and learn to live with it, even embrace it. To this end, I've decided to include this board, as well as Ornery, as a forum where I can be exposed to critically thinking people who both agree and disagree with me, but more importantly, who are willing to spend the time to help me understand why, and will back up their understanding with facts we can agree upon. Conclusions may be different, but I greatly value facts that both sides can agree upon. I hope to find civil discourse here - I tire of people not respecting others they disagree with - in every walk of life, philosophy, political persuasion. I will do my best to have an open mind, to treat all of you with respect and, well, love. I'd appreciate it, if I lose that focus, if you all would feel free to "lovingly" slap me back to reality S2

Anyway, I hope this gives you all SOME idea of who I am, and where I'm coming from - I look forward to discussing what is real with all of you.
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#24
Leith

Most of us love you for your honesty and your innocence. You have nothing to fear from us.
However, there are some real pricks on-line who would certainly attack you using what you have written here. I hope that God shields this from their view.

George
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#25
Hi tuky, it's good to hear from you again. I have been curious about how the Bear Pit is doing since being banned. I hope things continue to go well for you and i look forward to further debate. Thanks for sharing your testimony with the members and stay in touch. Ali
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#26
After responding to JohnL on another thread I realized that I had never posted anything in the introductions thread. So here goes.

My name is David Rogers, I'm 34, I was born in Cherry Point North Carolina when my dad was in the Marines. As I grew up I lived in a number of locations including Cherry Point North Carolina, Framingham Mass., Barrington Rhode Island, South Charleston West Virginia, Kokomo Indiana, and Champaign Illinois. I had a number of interests while growing up including Baseball, Basketball, Soccer, Swimming, Cross Country and Track, Band (I played trumpet), Choir, Bicycling, Computers, and Role playing games (like D&D). After High School I spent a semester studying Engineering at Iowa State University. Well actually half a semester of Engineering and half a semester of partying. Needless to say I had to pay for the next semester without parental help so I left Iowa State University and came back to Illinois.

After a few years of dropping classes and constantly changing my major because I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life I joined the Marines during Desert Shield. Of course, by the time there was a spot for me in Boot camp all of my Drill Instructors were veterans of Desert Storm. During Boot Camp I was given a chance to change my contract MOS from Aircraft Maintenance to Cryptography, but I was trying to stick to my commitments and stubbornly refused #-o. After 6 years of fixing F/A-18's and training reservists for the Marines I decided not to reenlist and to instead return home and go back to school.

When I returned to Illinois, I found that I my living expenses were going to be higher that expected so I got a full time job typesetting textbooks for a publication services company and started taking classes full time. One semester of that was enough. After about a year at that company I found a job at a company that makes mathematical software systems, typesetting their documentation. I started going to school again a few classes at a time and over a number of years I finally finished an Associates of Applied Science in Computer Graphics Programming. I have decide that when I transfer to a University (hopefully the University of Illinois) to finish my Bachelors I want to go full time, so I am taking a year to build up a nest egg before taking the plunge. I am also trying to make up my mind about what my major will be. I have no intention of changing it once started. I have narrowed it down to Mathematics, Statistics, or Economics, or getting a Business degree.

[Edited because I got my age wrong. I wont be 35 for 12 more days. And here I want to be a mathematician.]
DavidR
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#27
As per John L's request:

I tend not to draw much attention to myself and have no yearning for the spotlight. I wandered in here out of curiosity from the OSC forum, I never posted there but I did read his POV. Where I work I can only see org sites so my focus is limited to say the least. At home where I have the time to brew my wine and smoke my pipe I can better cogitate on what I read in my off time. I am 33 and I have served 11 years as an infanteer for the Canadian Armed Forces during my time I was one of the 1st English platoons deployed during the OKA crisis. I set up POW camps, op's and patrols. When that was done my brigade was called up to go to Yugoslavia, unfortunately positions were few and we all signed on to get over there to prevent a disaster but we were not all given the green light. Instead I got to stay at home while we watched on TV the horror and got the 1st hand reports of the evil that transpired there. Boys I trained with and grew up with who were calm, happy go lucky and without care in the world came back savage and distant. They had the thousand mile stare. Frustrated, I decided to cut short my tenure and by 1999 had left the army. I now work of a cell phone company as a part of their international customer service so I get to talk to people all over the world every day. I have friends who are all over the world, some in China others in Serbia to name a few and they keep me posted on the events that are going on in country 1st hand. I work with many of these people and trust what they tell me as true and they come from all walks of life from restoring democratic institutions, ministry of education to law enforcement. I ran for a federal seat in the last election and got 141 votes for my party, not bad for my 1st up at bat. My party did not win a seat. We ran on 3 principals: Abrogation of the FTA and NAFTA, allow all levels of government to borrow directly from the bank of Canada at nominal interest rather than private banks that charge interest on taxpayer money and representation by population in both the house of commons and the senate. Our ideals resonated with the electorate and with every vote worth $1.75 per vote per year our effort was not in vain as of 'fringe' party. As true conservative ideals are not supported by our conservative party and the old progressive conservative party under David Orchard had candidates running only in Ontario. I strongly support the idea of a strong and independent Canada and that usually runs afoul to the proponents of deep integration, namely the Liberals and Conservatives. As it stands Canada is well on the way to becoming a geographical term rather than a country with our current leadership. A country I fought for. I do not intend to let it go quietly and Paul hellyer I believe was Canada's last true leader.

For John: as for left and right they mean different things in the US than they do in Canada, I tend to think in terms of authoritarian and libertarian. According to the political compass I am just to the right of Gandhi if that helps.
If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things. Descartes

Opposition to tyrants is obedience to God. Jefferson
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#28
I'm a Boomer and a Vietnam vet - served 4 years in nuclear and conventional submarines. Used the GI Bill to put me through UC Santa Barbara with a BS degree I don't use.
Started working on the rigs in the Santa Barbara Channel during summer break which turned into a career in exploration oil drilling all over the globe. Lived in Thailand, Singapore, Brazil and Europe for a good number of years and presently back in the states.
Enjoy contributing to Political Forums and it's good to be here! S6
Matthew 12:30
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#29
I enjoyed the 'compass' test. I'll recommend it elsewhere, thanks.
I am proud to say my position is close to N. Mandela and the Dalai Lama, according to the chart. Ralph Nader isn't far away, either.Wink1
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
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#30
For the record, I found this 'Political Compass' to be less than satisfactory. It appears to be a product of the Libertarian Party, and uses the old, archaic chart four corners. That particular compass is one of the most inadaquate things the Libertarian Party ever came out with, and I usually vote Libertarian. As you may assume correctly, I hold little sacred, even my poliltical affiliation: if I disagree.

Also, at least 60% or the questions were misleading and required one to make a choice of two values you may agree with. For example if you believe that a world economy was inevitable, which was more important, the individual or the (implied) ruthless corperation. I disagreed with almost all the questions. That is probably one of the reasons I consider myself a true Individualist.

Sorry, but I ramble. I will not be using it for future reference. I'll stick with my definition of what I am: an Acton Classical Liberal. There, if you know anything about Lord Action, and you truely know what Classical Liberalism is, you can guess where I stand on at least 97% of all issues. I prefer that best.

So much for charts, or compasses. No offense intenced here Scape. Just stating my honest opinion. S1
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#31
Maybe you didn't like the result you got, John.
And the chart ain't 2-dimensional, as in either 'classical liberal' or 'collectivist'.
BTW, the lord you hold so dear, is it Acton or Action?
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
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#32
stroll Wrote:BTW, the lord you hold so dear, is it Acton or Action?

I believe John refers to H.B. Acton, the author of some very interesting books. (like The Illusion of the Epoch: Marxism-Leninism as a Philosophical Creed which is published online there)
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#33
Quote:I believe John refers to H.B. Acton, the author of some very interesting books. (like The Illusion of the Epoch: Marxism-Leninism as a Philosophical Creed which is published online there)

Man, how did the Bear-Pit crew ever get on here with all these real smart guys? =P~
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#34
Actually, I a referring to Lord Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton (1834–1902), who's most famous quote is that "power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Also just as good is “Despotic power is always accompanied by corruption of morality.” You can read up on Lord Acton and The Acton Institute right here.

He was one of the greatest moral historians of his time , and a passionate believer in the principles of Liberty. Once you get past the beard, there is more underneath than almost anyone you will ever learn about.

H B Acton must have been one of his grandchildren.
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#35
I really need to improve my google skills. :lol:
And get a copy of his works.
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#36
That was certainly a good guess. :idea:
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#37
I'm in my mid-20's, ex-military. I just got my bachelor's from UT and trying to further my education but ran out of money so now I'm working and about to head back to school this summer or fall.

I do a TV show here in Austin, TX. I just started it and it's only been on the air 4 times. Things are growing though and as soon as I get better at it I'll get a permanent time slot for once a week. All I have to do is ask. I run a website as well. I write most of the articles but sometimes friends/fellow posters write stuff for me on there as well. If your article is good or even decent, I'll throw it up there. I don't have to agree with it.

I have one son who I love very much and that is why I'm on here talking about this stuff, doing the show, and running the website. I remember when I was a kid and the IRA wore black ski masks, not the cops on the NYC beat. I do not expect to be happy with everything the government does or what people want but I do expect that government to operate in a system where votes are counted with a paper trail and not by former heads of the CIA(Robert Gates DIEBOLD). I do expect to live within a system where no one is above the law, including the president. I expect to live in a country that values and respect personal rights always because things like due process and free speech should never be left up to the discretion of the government. So that is just me rambling on why I do this. Talking on here is more of a learning process than anything for me.

my website:

http://madcowpolitics.com/
"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country."
- Thomas Jefferson

http://madcowpolitics.com/
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#38
Obviously we have a great deal more in common than not. Unfortunately, you could have given us a little more of your political views.

It seems that the biggest disagreement we have is with the UT thing. As a Tennessean, I naturally look at UT as in terms of 'Volunteers' instead of 'steak'. And since it was mostly Volunteers who actually got that other 'T' on it's feet, I will continue to think that there is really only one UT and it's colour is 'Big Orange'!

And, of course, the other difference is that you are in your twenties, and thus a real idealist. Since I am in my 50s, I am tempered with a little bit more pragmatism. But that comes with the mileage. S6

GO VOLS!!
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"INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - David Horowitz

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#39
John L Wrote:Unfortunately, you could have given us a little more of your political views.

I gave you my website.

John L Wrote:It seems that the biggest disagreement we have is with the UT thing. As a Tennessean, I naturally look at UT as in terms of 'Volunteers' instead of 'steak'. And since it was mostly Volunteers who actually got that other 'T' on it's feet, I will continue to think that there is really only one UT and it's colour is 'Big Orange'!
UT>Vols

John L Wrote:And, of course, the other difference is that you are in your twenties, and thus a real idealist. Since I am in my 50s, I am tempered with a little bit more pragmatism. But that comes with the mileage. S6

GO VOLS!!

You make a lot of assumptions and throw around a lot of labels for someone so tempered and pragmatic.
:lol:
"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country."
- Thomas Jefferson

http://madcowpolitics.com/
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#40
Oh, I forgot to mention that there is a bit of the 'smart ass' in me that has never been weeded out. Wink1
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