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Rio Fiasco
#21
And speaking of all the money spent on the olympics past, this list of pictures is a classic example of why they are all a huge waste of money and resources. Perhaps the entire thing should be returned to Greece, and let them handle it every four years.

Abandoned Olympic Venues From Around The World Or Why It’s The Biggest Waste Of Money Ever

Its so hard to pick which one I want to place here, so I will just take one of the first ones, and let you go through the entire list.

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#22
It's not a waste of money regarding advertising revenues versus cost of investment...
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#23
(08-10-2016, 04:03 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: It's not a waste of money regarding advertising revenues versus cost of investment...

That's indeed questionable. Isn't it the responsibility of all concerned to make an investment the best possible for all concerned?

How about let's move the olympics back to Greece, where they can keep using the same facilities. Does that sound reasonable?
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#24
Yes that would be more profitable. But, you know, building these facilities also add temporarily to the GDP... So for the World Bank it's better to change country every time.

Big racism in Rio. Do you think Brazilians are racists? (More than North-Americans?)
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(08-13-2016, 04:46 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: Yes that would be more profitable. But, you know, building these facilities also add temporarily to the GDP... So for the World Bank it's better to change country every time.

Fred, that's a straw dog argument, and Frederic Bastiat destroyed it in the his 1850 masterpiece, "That which is seen and That which is not Seen."  The only 'so called' economic intellectuals who don't pay attention to it, are those who worship The Keynesian Superstition.   Just go to that link and just six paragraphs down, you will see "The Broken Window", where he explains exactly why your argument is a non-sequitur.  

Please take the time and read "The Broken Window".  S22

(08-13-2016, 04:46 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: Big racism in Rio. Do you think Brazilians are racists? (More than North-Americans?)


No idea Fred.  I am not keeping up with that event.  Sorry.  Spiteful
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#26
I was sarcastic, in case you didn't know... S5
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#27
I haven't been watching this subject closely,...........I find it boring, but it appears to me that Brazil is taking the wrong approach to this dustup over whether or not some American swimmer was actually held up at gun point.  

BRAZIL POLICE OFFICIAL: LOCHTE MADE UP STORY ABOUT ROBBERY

Ryan Lochte defends Rio robbery account to Matt Lauer: 'We wouldn't make this story up'

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So, what do the Brazilian authorities do?  Well, they broadcast to the world, inadvertently showing just how corrupt and lawless Brazil really is, by..................

2 US Olympic Swimmers Pulled From Flight Amid Ryan Lochte's Claims of Robbery in Rio

Naturally it pays to advertise, doesn't it? Now, guess who is garnering the majority of the swimming PR? Spiteful

And then, to prove everything,......................Exclusive: Team GB member held up at gunpoint at Rio Olympics: Athletes told not to leave safety of village.  Victim is understood to be in shock but unharmed.  

Murphy's Law on steroids.  S13
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#28
Police are claiming there are inconsistencies in the stories told about the hold-up. But you have to wonder if this is the knee-jerk reaction of a typical third world police force, to blame the victims of making things up, when the police clearly have no hope of finding the criminals.

As for speculations about Lochte's supposed motivation for making up the story, most Americans are not proud of being victims of crime. Rather, most feel embarrassment, as well as anger, and a sense of personal violation.
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#29
The police press conference this afternoon in Rio was interesting. According to them, the narrative of events they have ascertained from video cameras--and verified by one of the American athletes--is that Ryan Lochte was seriously drunk and very upset, there was vandalism of the bathroom including breaking a mirror, and a security guard brandished a gun when Lochte seemed to be out of control and got him to calm himself and sit down. Then when someone who could interpret came forward, arrangement was made for the American athletes to pay for the damages they had done. Which they did. One hundred Rios and an American $20 bill--totalling about $70 in value. Apparently no charges have actually been filed. However, unlike in American law, the police and the judge can also bring charges, even if the aggrieved party (the gas station owners and staff) do not press charges. Lochte is already in the USA (and he cannot be extradited for a minor crime like making a false report of a crime), but a judge ordered the other three taken off their plane when they were about to leave. The police chief said they would be allowed to leave Brazil, but he did not say when.

CNN also reported that the American athletes had ripped down a poster from a wall and urinated in some bushes along the sidewalk between buildings leading to the restroom.

It was also pointed out by commentators on FNC and CNN that if the security guard brandished a gun, and subsequently money was paid, then by American law that was theft. How connected those two events were is not clear. Since none of the Americans spoke Portuguese, and the staff and security guard did not speak English, there could have been some misunderstanding of what was going on. The guard, by the way, was an off-duty policeman, who had a license for his gun and a valid badge, so he was not a "fake cop" like Lochte claimed to an NBC reporter.
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#30
Almost certainly the young barbarians were following their high level of testosterone and feelings of dominant position.  So naturally they had to do what young barbarians do best: see how much alcohol they can consume and remain standing.  Works every time its tried.  

However, the Olympic committee really had their heads up their arses by trying to make such an issue out of it, especially when there were already so many armed robberies.  

And worse still, almost immediately following their accusations, one more certified armed robbery occurred.  This time it was a Brit athlete, and it was for certifiable.  Terrible PR ability.  By going out of their way to be factually precise, they allowed their entire reputation to be closely scrutinized by the rest of the world.  

Talk about amateurs.  Nothing like shooting one's self in one foot, then hopping around and shooting the other foot.   S13
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#31
The 1996 Atlanta Olympics helped Atlanta. They built the current Braves Baseball Stadium for the Olympics. No reason governments cannot think ahead and repeat that type performance.
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#32
Ryan Lochte Issues Apology After Rio Incident, Blames 'Traumatic' Situation for Fake Robbery Story

"I should have been much more responsible."

Link: http://ijr.com/2016/08/676552-ryan-locht...dium=owned

Here is Lochte's official statement (probably strongly influenced by his attorney):

Quote:I want to apologize for my behavior last weekend — for not being more careful and candid in how I described the events of that early morning and for my role in taking the focus away from the many athletes fulfilling their dreams of participating in the Olympics. I waited to share these thoughts until it was confirmed that the legal situation was addressed and it was clear that my teammates would be arriving home safely.

It’s traumatic to be out late with your friends in a foreign country – with a language barrier – and have a stranger point a gun at you and demand money to let you leave, but regardless of the behavior of anyone else that night, I should have been much more responsible in how I handled myself and for that am sorry to my teammates, my fans, my fellow competitors, my sponsors, and the hosts of this great event. I am very proud to represent my country in Olympic competition and this was a situation that could and should have been avoided. I accept responsibility for my role in this happening and have learned some valuable lessons.

I am grateful for my USA Swimming teammates and the USOC, and appreciate all of the efforts of the IOC, the Rio ’16 Host Committee, and the people of Brazil who welcomed us to Rio and worked so hard to make sure that these Olympic Games provided a lifetime of great new memories.

There has already been too much said and too many valuable resources dedicated to what happened last weekend, so I hope we spend our time celebrating the great stories and performances of these Games and look ahead to celebrating future successes.”
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