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San Bernardino Massacre
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(12-03-2015, 06:55 PM)WarBicycle Wrote:
(12-03-2015, 04:24 PM)John L Wrote:
(12-03-2015, 04:05 PM)WmLambert Wrote: It might be best for Sayed Farouk to be defined as a run-of-the-mill Muslim. This administration has bent over backwards to distance all Muslims from anyone who plays the jihad game.

So he was radicalized. So what? It was his faith that allowed that. There was a head scarf-wearing Muslim woman on Fox News claiming Sayed "was not one of us peace-loving Muslims." She and all Muslims are allowed - ordered - to lie to infidels in defense of their faith. What is she supposed to say? ...That she does not agree with anything that may bring about universal Shariah Law? It is not just the radicals that are the problem.

This exactly why I keep stating that Islam cannot be reformed. It has to be replaced.


It has to be exterminated.

Maybe a little of both - but in the end, it must be proven false and voluntarily given up.
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(12-03-2015, 07:41 PM)WmLambert Wrote: Maybe a little of both - but in the end, it must be proven false and voluntarily given up.

The only trouble with that is it can take a long time for that process to run to completion, and in the meantime, many will die who should not have died. But in the end, we all must choose. No one escapes. The choice comes to everyone. We can hurry up the process a lot by being firm, and making it clear that following the path of militant Islam will have dire consequences that are real and immediate. If we hold back, and do not use overwhelming force right away, then many more will die in the long run. Today's cowardice and lack of moral resolve is what ensures the fulfillment of my prediction--based on Revelation 8:8, 9--that Europe will be plunged into an all-out civil war in which several national governments will fall, but ultimately few or no Moslems will be left alive in Europe.

Here's a clue to understanding the Biblical symbolism. In the prophecies of Daniel 7 and 8 ferocious animals are described as arising out of the sea. We are then told by an angel commentator that these beasts represent kingdoms or empires that will arise out of the "sea" of human population of the Old World. The same symbolism of "animals" living in the "sea"--some of which are killed--in Revelation 8:8, 9 must refer to the same things. The nations or governments of the Old World. Especially Europe, which is where the "beasts" of Daniel 7 and 8 primarily had their careers of warfare and domination.
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#23
Extermination is the easiest.
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#25
Interesting revelation here.

San Bernardino shooting: Attacker pledged allegiance to ISIS, officials say
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#26
You Yanks had better watch what you say about Muslims, Loretta Lynch is coming after you.
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(12-04-2015, 01:03 PM)WarBicycle Wrote: You Yanks had better watch what you say about Muslims, Loretta Lynch is coming after you.

Pardon me, but Screw Loretta Lynch.
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#28
Is there a prohibition against anti-Attorney General comments?

Like we agree on, un-religion it. Proclaim it a political system. We outlawed Shinto in Japan after WWII. Precedent has been set.
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#29
The terrorists' landlord opened their home to the media and they have contaminated it. Someone's head is going to roll as it is an active crime scene.

Source
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#30
What is terrible about this story is that this couple had everything to live happy: A good job, a nice apartment,... and a 6 months old baby and they destroyed everything. Imagine: She just fed her baby in the morning and a few hours later she goes kill poeple with her husband, ready to blow themselves up. S4
It's horror beyond all limits.
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(12-04-2015, 05:57 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: What is terrible about this story is that this couple had everything to live happy: A good job, a nice apartment,... and a 6 months old baby and they destroyed everything. Imagine: She just fed her baby in the morning and a few hours later she goes kill poeple with her husband, ready to blow themselves up. S4
It's horror beyond all limits.

I'm certain they thought they would get away with it, unfortunately for them, the local SWAT team was practicing nearby.
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(12-04-2015, 05:35 PM)WarBicycle Wrote: The terrorists' landlord opened their home to the media and they have contaminated it. Someone's head is going to roll as it is an active crime scene.
Naw... The investigators were finished and the crime scene was given over to its owners. All interesting items were removed and receipts were left. It was the landlord who opened the building to the media.
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#33
There was shredded paper in a waste bin, they should have taken that away as well.
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#34
WarB Wrote:I'm certain they thought they would get away with it
I don't think so. I have yet to see a terrorist attack by ISIL militants (or those who are inspired by them) when the terrorists didn't die. They always die at the end.

Dying with your victims is part of the ritual.

WB Wrote:There was shredded paper in a waste bin, they should have taken that away as well
You think the investigators didn't take a look at it?
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(12-05-2015, 04:21 PM)Fredledingue Wrote:
WB Wrote:There was shredded paper in a waste bin, they should have taken that away as well
You think the investigators didn't take a look at it?

You mean like carefully piecing it back together ... "looking at it" ... and then throwing it back in the trash? It's fairly standard practice to lock down a crime scene/apartment for some period while an investigation is still ongoing ... they do that for most garden variety murders ... but in this case they didn't. This is the mark of some political pressure to make this go away and/or obfuscate if something else embarrassing turns up. You'd think that the FBI would vacuum up the entire place and attempt to get DNA to figure out who had been visiting that apartment. But if they found additional links to more terrorist, that would detract from the "work place violence" narrative that they're still pitifully trying to peddle. In short, these are people who generally do very meticulous, methodical work ... they don't get this sloppy unless they are ordered to get this sloppy. I would not be surprised if there aren't still crime scene technicians carefully going through the places where the Paris attackers lived. It's a different mind set. Lynch has said her greatest fear is an anti-Muslim backlash. The possibility of identifying co-conspirators probably plays into those fears. Getting at the truth is not in her or her boss's interest. And if something pops up it can now easily be discredited by a completely adulterated crime scene turned tourist attraction.
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#36
Fred,

It is not certain who the girl was. The name is a "nom de guerre" of a famous male Islamic terrorist:

http://hotair.com/not-good-to-be-the-kin...at-girl-2/

The child may not be hers either.

Beyond this, the "they had everything" mentality again is missing the point.

Western people have to learn that having more ease, comfort and more stuff is not what drives everyone. Just because it's the dream of most westerners, it is not for everyone. Not even me.
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#38
Palladin, it's not my dream neither. But many are telling that youths are going into Jihad because of economic despair. It's not completely true. It's true that they come more often from the lower class than middle or upper, but it's because in the lower class they also have lesser education and lesser parental control. They don't blow up because they don't have enough money.
Many terrorists are well off. These ones were.
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