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European Jihad - Paris, Brussels Terrorized
(03-26-2017, 01:18 PM)Palladin Wrote: John,

I agree with this.

But, at the bottom of this discussion, European Jews forced their way into governing Palestine and are illegally occupying EJ and the WB and there cannot possibly ever be peace in that long term, there are too many surrounding foes and the Palestinian Arabs didn't deserve the angst of Jews, Germans did.

Israel had little choice there. They were constantly attacked because the West Bank is jutting into the country and mounting raids and invasions worked best there. That had to be eliminated.

Also Palestinians and other Arabs, who are Israeli citizens know they have it better than with their own kind running things. They enjoy more liberties there than anywhere else.

Look Pat, this is a "kill or be killed" situation that you fail to understand. Israel is outnumbered by so much that they must be proactive. Too bad you are unable to understand that. Jews are no longer going to sit back any more, spending their time crying and moaning as they are marched to the gas chambers.

Those Palestinians who are in the West Bank and not Israeli citizens are undergoing a dedicated 'mark exchange' system there. If a Palestinian decides to sell his property, some Jewish organization scarfs it up. That is legal almost everywhere on the planet. Once they obtain property rights, they exercise their ownership privileges. Are you opposed to that?[/quote]
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John,

I really don't disagree with an aggressive Israeli campaign to preclude an aggression against them, but, I think what they're doing is trying to undermine the Syrian state, exactly what we're accusing jihadists of doing to Israel in the past.

Under no conditions is it acceptable under the sun for you to place yourself in such a position you need to assist Sunni jihadis and Israel has to right now geo strategically. I know you say this is bs, but, helping any Sunni jihadi to undermine a Shia state next door is in Israel's interests because of Iran.

That's just statecraft 101. The USA is trying as well, it's why we tried to undermine Assad.

As far as the WB and EJ , John, you are not into reality if you're believing Israeli Jews and EJ or WB Arabs freely buy and sell that land. It's taken John, I know of a family of Palestinian Arab Christians in Knoxville who had their property stolen just recently. They didn't sell it, Israel stole it and they hate Israel. I go to church with their lawyer who told me.

Maybe Israel sent them a check based on what the Israeli Supreme court has adjudicated, they sure as hell did not sell it freely and neither would any other Arab do so at this point. It's not what's happening. Of course if it was I would have no problem with it.

You need to see reality here, Israel is operating in many respects poorly in a manner God cannot approve of when they use security as a cover for theft like this. It's an outrage. I don't give a damn if it's Jews or not, they can be perps or victims and they're perps in this regard.

Just like lots of our "top security" stuff is to hide illegal trash among our state actors.
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(03-26-2017, 04:40 PM)Palladin Wrote: John,

I really don't disagree with an aggressive Israeli campaign to preclude an aggression against them, but, I think what they're doing is trying to undermine the Syrian state, exactly what we're accusing jihadists of doing to Israel in the past.

I'll bet you they would love to have a peace treaty with Syria. That would sew up every part of the borders except Lebanon and Gaza.

(03-26-2017, 04:40 PM)Palladin Wrote: As far as the WB and EJ , John, you are not into reality if you're believing Israeli Jews and EJ or WB Arabs freely buy and sell that land. It's taken John, I know of a family of Palestinian Arab Christians in Knoxville who had their property stolen just recently. They didn't sell it, Israel stole it and they hate Israel. I go to church with their lawyer who told me.

If there are no other extenuating and mitigating circumstances involved, I too feel for the family and think they should have it restored. And then again you may not be getting 100% of the story. For instance, Israel has a policy that if a person, or member of that person's family, aid and abet terrorism, they may well have their property taken from them. In other words, if a hot headed son harbors a terrorist friend and is caught, the family pays.

When I was a dependent of my late Father, who was career Army, my Mom and Dad constantly reminded me that if I got into any trouble, my Dad would be the one to bear the punishment. And the Army was serious about that.

Maybe Israel sent them a check based on what the Israeli Supreme court has adjudicated, they sure as hell did not sell it freely and neither would any other Arab do so at this point.  It's not what's happening. Of course if it was I would have no problem with it.

(03-26-2017, 04:40 PM)Palladin Wrote: You need to see reality here, Israel is operating in many respects poorly in a manner God cannot approve of when they use security as a cover for theft like this. It's an outrage. I don't give a damn if it's Jews or not, they can be perps or victims and they're perps in this regard.

Just like lots of our "top security" stuff is to hide illegal trash among our state actors.

I'm not making excuses for immoral acts, but remember this is a war zone and Israel is trying to just survive too. Being nice and turning the other cheek will get them all killed by Islamists.
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It is not a war zone John. That's where you are buying Israeli pr at face value, come on. East Jerusalem and the WB are not war zones. Gaza can be said to be that and the northern and southern borders are always in danger.

Israel is consistently and unlawfully stealing private property from Arabs where they are NOT at war. Just for cheaper land for Israeli Jews. Have you ever spoken to a WB resident? The land over there is subsidized with US tax dollars to encourage Israelis to strike out and live over there. Started under Ron Reagan.

They have to induce citizens to move there for obvious reasons.
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OK, whatever you say Patrick. I'm sure I'm wrong and you are right.

Moving on............................
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Great response, John.

Try to talk reasonable and make a case and your response is always to just leave because it's an uncomfortable subject.

You wouldn't tolerate the shit the Palestinian Arabs do off the Israelis yourself.
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