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Non-Western Film
#1
I say non-Western because I would rather exclude Europe and the US from this. I am more talking about Eastern Europe/Central Asia/Middle East/Indian Subcontinent, than a lot of the East Asian stuff that does make its way here quite often.

Are there any worthwhile films outside that region to watch?

I was partially inspired to bring this subject up by Green's Wiki article he made. I've seen some well-produced, quality filmed Bollywood movies before (too bad I can't remember the name of them) overseas, as well as bad Middle Eastern ones. Then again my travel experience over there was somewhat limited to a geographical region.

Anyhow, post any suggestions or discuss the film. I imagine this thread will likely have a very slow start given the forum's demographics, but oh well.

I would recommend the newer Taras Bulba that was made in Russia a few years, if only for the sake of one the leading female actresses. The end was kind of cheesy, like they over-drew/overdid the book in the movie, if that makes sense. Still, not a waste of time.
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#2
I put a list of more or less valuable stuff at the Cinema of Russia en.wiki article.
In the ME cinema Iran is worth an investigation, perhaps.
Israel also must be hiding some jewels.
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#3
Ever seen Nightwatch and Daywatch? they're both Russian movies... a little over the top in terms of action and campiness, but man I couldn't help but enjoy it.

here's my favortive scene from Daywatch, just a example of how crazy awesome the two movies are:


yes, that's a woman driving her car up the side of a building just because she wasn't allowed to see her husband. S6
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#4
Just to make things clear for myself... what do you think in not cheesy and campy ?
Claude Lelouch?
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#5
I haven't actually watched much of Claude Lelouche's movies at all.

you're thinking that I just said the whole Day/night watch movies were cheesy or campy... I didn't say that at all. I said the action was over the top, which made it so awesome. There's also a small degree of cheesy/camp with certain scenes, but it isn't like that for the entire movie. if anything they were very minor scenes anyway so it doesn't detract from the movie at all.
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#6
I haven't seen Lelouch much either.
I just thought that French New wave was a good example of poetic minimalism without too much trites.
The "Man and woman" would be non-campy stuff...

T, maybe this movie will be better than Taras Bulba.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167380

This Georgian (more French than Georgian in reality) movie was just a head-opener.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475169/
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#7
Tait,

A film I found extremely interesting years ago was "REDS". It's the story of an idealistic communist American reporter, Jack Reed, and his eyewitness reporting of the Russian revolution.

Based on his historical work, "10 days that shook the world", 1920.

It's made by Hollywood, but, it's a really interesting moment in human history. He's buried in the Kremlin, not a lot of Americans are.
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#8
Interesting...Russian filmography being thought "non-Western".
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#9
I suppose "Spaghetti Westerns" are not in the purview of this thread.
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#10
Then this one may come handy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemonade_Joe

and ole Soviet one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Man_from_..._Capucines
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#11
Thanks, Green. This is the sort of stuff I was hoping to find - especially the films about our Westerns from a foreign perspective.
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#12
This is also a kind of "Red Western" but it isn't mentioned as such in English wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elusive_Avengers
Though it is mightier in drama and intensity. Set in the Civil war just a few years after the Revolution.
Very bright music and images.
(If you can stand indeology behind the movie). :-)
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#13
http://kiwi.kz/search/?keyword=Dialogue+...1%82%D0%B8

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#14
Watch this one from Brasilia. It'll make the top three of your all time favourite films.





English subtitles by klicking the CC button.
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#15
Why Q...I didn't know you were a "chicken queen"! beised, no matter how much you might find favela life exotic, this film is hardly "non-western". After all, Brazil is much farther West than any Eurohead could possibly get!
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#16
(01-12-2012, 11:06 AM)quadrat Wrote: Watch this one from Brasilia. It'll make the top three of your all time favourite films.





English subtitles by klicking the CC button.

Seen it before, as well as Tropa de Elite (another excellent film). Both are very good films. I was drawn into them within the first minute of watching.

However, it is indeed true that this isn't really 'non-Western'. You could still prove valuable to this thread, however, if you can link us to anything good coming out of your corner of Asia these days.
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#17
I like hybrids.
http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0089881/

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0054047/

What are your best movies with a western theme done in the east? And vice versa?
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#18
(01-12-2012, 11:52 AM)Gunnen4u Wrote: You could still prove valuable to this thread, however, if you can link us to anything good coming out of your corner of Asia these days.

Nothing but silly crap. The days of Seven Samurai are buried and forgotten. The only remotely meaningful film i can remember is this one.



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#19
I was watching "Tahoe lake" today and "Voces Inocentes" yesterday and liked the former much more. Mexican stuff smells with Bollywood sometimes. But Tahoe's script is so simple and cool...

T, try Dutch "Max Havelaar" (1976), there is a horse on the cover... Funny that anti-colonial film was banned in Indonesia for so long. The Dutch movies are really slow and they don't share Hollywood concept of plot-twist with a shootout every 5 minutes.
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#20
Mexican "films" can under no understanding of the term be identified as "non-Western" and to attempt such is piffle. But apparently that appears to be the thrust of this thread given that it has a rather queer view of what a "Hollywood concept" really calls for. A shoot-out every five minutes is Hollywood? Guess High Noon must have been made in Outer Mongolia...are we talking of regional film industries located in the former colonial world or are we discussing films set in an exotic locale? Define the terms and as a hint see this site:

http://fashionfilmstudies.blogspot.com/2...films.html

It opens with a definition straight from Claude Levi-Strauss!
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