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#81
Oh My, what am I missing out on? Game of Thrones season 6: "The Door" explains how the show is about climate change

Game of Thrones is secretly all about climate change


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#82
(05-23-2016, 08:41 PM)John L Wrote: ...Game of Thrones is secretly all about climate change.

Nah, It is more traditional zombie apocalypse than weather. It is certainly not about warming - but rather the long winters that can last a decade or longer. The last episode showed that the Children created the White Walkers in order to fight the invaders from across the Narrow Sea. The Children had the magic which could protect them from the zombie armies the White Walkers made.

If anything, The Game of Thrones is more about the different gods and how they cause all the problems. R'hllor, the Red God of fire, seems closest to the Children (who Bran is learning about). R'hllor battles the bad, unspeakable god of ice and snow. Funny, because the Children created the White Walkers and use fire with almost similar magic to protect themselves from what they created. The various gods of old Valaryia are used by different sorcerers and mages for their own purposes, and the old gods of the Andals and the First Men, and the Seven Gods of Westeros, are mixed in somehow. The Red God can bring the dead back to life in a seemingly positive manner, (as shown by Dondarrian, Catelyn, and Jon Snow) - while the White Walkers create stumble-bum zombies from the dead, who can only be stopped by fire or dragon glass edged weapons.

If there is any climate change baked into the plot, then it escapes me. Somehow - the Narrow Sea seems to separate one climate system from the other. There seems to be no world-wide climate, nor explanation of how it works.

However; there are the stone men, those who have a highly communicable disease that causes anyone touched by them to turn into stone. But that is also similar to the grey scale that doesn't appear to be untreatable. The Stone Men seem similar to the Wights controlled by the White Walkers. Jorah, the Andal, has a patch on his arm and will eventually turn into a stone man - but Daenarys ordered him to find a cure and then come back to her.
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#83
I thought Everything was about Climate Change Bill? Are you sure you aren't just overlooking the obvious here?
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#84
Overlooking the obvious is why so many people are incapable of reading the entire work of Moby Dick or Dhalgren. ...No faith that the author has something coming to make the reading worthwhile.
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#85
I never read Moby Dick. I managed to read the first third of Dalhgren before I was too disgusted to continue and threw the book against the wall. That's the only time I ever did that. I do not praise any author who does not understand the necessity of making his book interesting before you reach the final pages. Most experienced writers, especially the successful ones who have been willing to mentor other writers, have stressed that you need to snag a reader's interest on the first page, if not in the first paragraph. It is presumptuous and arrogant for any writer to think it is OK for him to contrive to leave his novel uninteresting until the very last. In my one novel I have published, I realize I have a tendency to be a bit "preachy," but I did attempt to make it interesting from the very start, and keep on adding interesting complications. Which is what you are supposed to do. I have never read anything by Samuel R. Delany that I liked. For that matter, after one or two bad experiences, I tend to avoid him altogether. How can you walk with someone for many miles if you do not like the way his mind works?
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#86
(05-24-2016, 08:48 PM)Ron Lambert Wrote: I have never read anything by Samuel R. Delany that I liked. For that matter, after one or two bad experiences, I tend to avoid him altogether. How can you walk with someone for many miles if you do not like the way his mind works?

Totally agree Ron.  I had completely forgotten about him, because his style,......or something, totally turned me off.  And I knew nothing about him previously until right now, because I paid so little attention to him.  He's one of those "From the beginning" category types.   S18

As for Moby Dick,..................I saw the movie, but got so bogged down in the novel, I had to do other things..................... S13
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#87
But that's the point. Everybody gets bogged down reading Moby Dick. It was a laboratory experiment by Herman Melville during what is now called the American Renaissance. Each section of the book was written with a different style, plot, and focus. One part (which is all that appears in films) is about Ishmael's narrative as he sails on the whaling ship Pequod under the command of Captain Ahab.

Delany is an author most similar to James Joyce. (Joyce also wrote in stream of consciousness, long, unspaced longhand that was nearly impossible to read, and a nightmare for type compositors.) If you study Joyce, you learn how to write better and faster than with any classroom efforts. One of my high school literature teachers, Mr. Killoran, was in Who's Who as one of the most respected Joyce experts in the world. (He once told me he got through College without ever having read a Joyce book - just the summaries and Cliff's Notes.) It was only after he understood that there were more to Joyce's books than meets the eye that he sat down and read them all for his sheer pleasure.

My first reading of Dhalgren was hard. I wanted to do what Ron did and smash it against the wall - but i took a break and researched Delany and learned what his editor endured to see it through. I vowed to see it through, myself, before passing judgement, and was surprised by how completely all the questions and anti-social attitudes were fleshed out and explained. Perhaps I wouldn't have held in there, had i not had the James Joyce experience.

BTW: at University of Michigan, my housemates and one sister sat at a Ouigi Board one night, and I used my studies with Professor James V. McConnel from his Philosophy of Persuasion class - and reading James Joyce, in a different Philosophy class to control the Ouigi Board and screw with my friends' minds a bit. We just played with it a while, and then some strange answers started appearing, The whole group became absorbed, and crowded around trying to pick apart what was showing up. I and my friend Gary were just lightly touching the pointer and I purposefully used unconscious cuing to signal to Gary what letters I wanted to point to. It wasn't me controlling the board, I was just suggesting to Gary where to move, and he took it there. We spelled out things from what James Joyce wrote in Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man: the red brush and the green brush... about Sunday, bloody Sunday... about getting in touch with a great grandson who was in danger from "The Troubles" in Ireland. Went on for hours. Not only was it a strong verification of all that McConnell had explained in class, it was also instructive of how thoroughly someone will believe what isn't explainable because others are also wrapped up in it. They were all so sure that we had tapped into the metaphysical that no one would believe me when I tried to explain what happened.
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#89
Are these two guys related?

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#90
It appears the big question with those freakazoid GoT devotees is who will kill Tommen?
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#91
73 episodes and done.

Now Tommen is dead, Cersei is Queen, and Daenarys is coming with her dragons. It appears Bran saw Jon Snow being born to Lyanna - Ned was not his father. Does this make Jon a Targaryen?
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(06-30-2016, 09:00 PM)John L Wrote: [Image: cool-Game-Thrones-Martin-book-sword.jpg]

Sorry, John but these themetapicture .jpgs don't deem to open on the screen. I tried to go to the website... and nada. I can find the website - but trying to find the jpg just shows a black screen.
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#94
Bill, JW and I are also experiencing difficulties as well.  Must be something from the software.  

Tell you what.  As management, you can use an "edit" button.  Hit it for that missing image, and choose the 'full edit' option.  It will then show the entire 'html' language.  Just copy and paste the address inside, and it will show itself.  

Maybe Joan will get things straightened out soon.  In truth, this had been happening before moving to the new server.  I had problems sometimes on some pages, but not on others.
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#95
John, that's what I did. I can find the website - but the image doesn't come up.

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#97
Oh Lord,......................Say it isn't so Joe.  What will we do here, not being able to watch all of the characters shamelessly get killed off?  

HBO confirms Game Of Thrones will END with season 8 but no decision on how many episodes

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#98
"Spoiler Alert" -- you read it first here. The dragons will kill everyone (including Daenerys and all the witches), and then the White Walkers will turn everyone into zombies, and the Children who created the White Walkers will sit on the Iron Throne, then freeze to death. Ten years later, when summer comes again, the whole world will thaw out, and a new people will populate the land. No guarantee that they will be human.

Just one caveat: If he kills off Arya Stark, then George R.R. Martin has to give back all his awards.

Arya Stark (Maisie Williams):
   
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#99
One thing I noted after rereading the novels so far released, the TV version is far less buried in superfluous characters with the result that far fewer must be killed off. For instance no Great Belwas or Frog. The Iron ships are controlled by Asha - not her Nuncle, and the multiple mercenary companies are removed from the story. It looks like Martin is spinning down the complexity to make it viewable. In the novels Daenerys has flown off on her dragon before Tyrion even makes it to her court and becomes her Hand, and the Harpies are the single group of bad guys inside Mereen.

I don't know how he can write the final novel which must be far different than the TV episodes, just for continuity's sake. Arya and Jon Snow are the two most favorite Starks that are left, even though it looks like Jon is replacing the Frog character as the missing Targeryon. The two main characters left are Daenerys and Tyrian, with the Kingslayer, Brienne, Bran, and Sam still in the mix.

Not everyone is getting killed off, and even those who were killed and brought back are dwindling. For instance,  Catelyn Stark hasn't been a character since she was killed, like she was in the books. By and large, I like the video version better than the books' convolutions - but both are good. Writing the last season and finishing the last book must be very difficult.
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