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HBO: Game of Thrones
#21
One of my favorite characters in Game of Thrones is the Imp, Tyrion Lanister. I always thought he was a bad guy thrown in to make the bad guys look like bad guys, but after this last episode he showed the depth of his character. One of the things I like most about this series is that there are good guys and bad guys, but there are great things within the bad guys and the good guys have a really dark side. It makes it much more realistic than simple television usually allows.
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#22
So far I have not been able to find part two and three. I have four and five, but need the others first.
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#23
Oh, and there is this too:

which puts things in better perspective.
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#24
I don't have HBO, but have read the George R.R. Martin books since there was just one. I may need to wait until the series comes out on DVD - but the clips that are available shows a piece of work true to Martin's vision. Unlike most of potentially great works that are ruined by little producers with huge egos - this one looks to follow in the Peter Jackson tradition of dedication to the work.
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#25
Well Bill, I am going to have to make a command decision as to which series to watch first: this one, or "The Walking Dead". I already have all the current shows for the former, ready to watch. But somehow there is something else calling me, and most of the characters are dead,.....and walking around too. S5
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#26
I know I am a lot late to this party but it would seem that my hubby has discovered this show and even though we can watch it weekly (cause we caught up with the ones he downladed) all snuggled on the sofa, he's not into that, so we're watching it on the computer....


I am enjoying the story line, the blood and gutts not so much, there are some plot twists that have me repulsed but yet remind me of the VC Andrews series Flowers in the Attic
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#27
Mother of Fucking God. Every episode ends with me thinking that there's no way next weeks episode can top this weeks, but next weeks episode comes and blows my freaking mind. Anyone keeping up with this show? I've been craving so much of it that I've started reading the books. near as I can tell the shows a literal translation of the book.
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#28
I really haven't. I need to download the shows I haven't watched, and play catchup.

I just checked at Demonoid and there are 452 entries of programs uploaded just for Game of Thrones: nine today already. Obviously there are a lot of people, who really like the series.

This guy is not happy with the latest installment: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1684563...ecap.jhtml

One of the reasons why I had held off on watching it all was the fact that George Martin had not completed the series of novels yet. He still has to complete number six and seven of the A Song of Ice and Fire series, which is the real name of the written saga. In something like that, the usual thing is for the movie makers to dream up what they want, when they start coming to the end of all they can work with. And usually the 'made up' stuff is less in substance than what is in the novels.

I'm afraid this is all going to start heading into Left Field as a result.
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#29
Some things work better in print than on the screen and vice versa. I don't even remember why Dany went to the house of the undying in the book, but in the show she certainly has reason to go.

Character compression is another example. Osha seems to be taking the place of both Reeds. That's fine. And compression messed with Arya's story so that.. while the spirit is still there, it's almost unrecognizable...

But it's necessary. Ever checked out the end of each book and seen how many pages are dedicated to appendices that do nothing but list who the characters are? That simply won't due in a TV show. There are too many characters as is. You can't introduce a new one every 10 minutes and expect your audience to follow.
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#30
In truth, I have not read the novels, so I am just going on what someone else wrote as a review. I have looked over Martin's works, but he is almost exclusively a Fantasy novelist. Fantasy doesn't really float my boat all that much, because I am tuned into the SiFi end of fiction.

I guess I'm more into the 'Hard' end, and also military SiFi. That's why I read a lot of David Weber, John Ringo, or Taylor Anderson's excellent Destroyermen series.
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#31
I have always wanted to check out the books or the show but have never got around to it.

Started to read Robert Jordan's novels,(Wheel of Time) but they turned into a soap opera. S17
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#32
Watch the show, and become hooked like the rest of us who have.
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#33
Grizz, Get back into wheel of time. It's an amazing saga. Course, you're mostly retarded so I understand why you couldn't keep up with it. Jordan's military knowledge is unrivaled and brings his battles to life in ways Tolkien never could. Most ignorant people bitch about it saying he ripped everyone else off, but that's kind of the point. It's an amalgamation of every fable ever told.

All I can say about game of thrones is Tyrion Fucking Lannister. He is one of the few examples I can think of where his presence on television is better than he is portrayed in a book.
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#34
(05-07-2012, 06:21 PM)Pixiest Wrote: Some things work better in print than on the screen and vice versa. I don't even remember why Dany went to the house of the undying in the book, but in the show she certainly has reason to go.

Character compression is another example. Osha seems to be taking the place of both Reeds. That's fine. And compression messed with Arya's story so that.. while the spirit is still there, it's almost unrecognizable...

But it's necessary. Ever checked out the end of each book and seen how many pages are dedicated to appendices that do nothing but list who the characters are? That simply won't due in a TV show. There are too many characters as is. You can't introduce a new one every 10 minutes and expect your audience to follow.

I still have a hard time with this. I usually watch the previous episode right after the newest one because there is an almost continual onslaught of new characters. I just realized 2 weeks ago that Theon is a Greyjoy and their relevance within the story.
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#35
I've been hearing about it a lot, and sounds like a good series. However.... I don't have HBO. and I find it unlikely that I could find it online with English subtitles or Close captioning. sigh.
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#36
Ghoulio: I rewatched season 1 after reading the books. it made a lot more sense. It was the current "alpha show" before but after the books it was even better.

Aurora: Maybe you should read the books?

I sense a theme here...
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#37
(05-08-2012, 12:19 PM)Aurora Moon Wrote: I've been hearing about it a lot, and sounds like a good series. However.... I don't have HBO. and I find it unlikely that I could find it online with English subtitles or Close captioning. sigh.

Which series? There is talk about two or three series above.

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#38
GAME OF THRONES, as the title of this thread says.

You can find anything with subtitles on kickasstorrents.com.
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#39
(05-07-2012, 11:35 PM)ghoullio Wrote: Grizz, Get back into wheel of time. It's an amazing saga. Course, you're mostly retarded so I understand why you couldn't keep up with it. Jordan's military knowledge is unrivaled and brings his battles to life in ways Tolkien never could. Most ignorant people bitch about it saying he ripped everyone else off, but that's kind of the point. It's an amalgamation of every fable ever told.

All I can say about game of thrones is Tyrion Fucking Lannister. He is one of the few examples I can think of where his presence on television is better than he is portrayed in a book.
I'm going to start out here at book #4 The Shadow Rising. Why? Because that is when it started to suck. Taking actual Amazon reviews, that book received 56% five star, while the accumulation of 1 star to 4 star filled in for a less favorable viewpoint of 44%. 12% edge only. And personally, I would have still given it at least a 3.5 star just from memory.

Now things start to get weird. Remember the figures above? Try switching them around. Book #5 The Fires of Heaven gets 44% 5 star while 1-4 star comes in at 56%. Big change, huh.

Book #6 Lord of Chaos: 48% 5 star. 52% 1-4 star.

Book #7 Crown of Swords: 43% 5 star; 57% 1-4 star.

Book #8 The Path of Daggers: 17% 5 star; 83% 1-4 star.See anything here? Sort of like the Titanic. Here are some quick excerpts from reviewers:
Quote:“ When I read the first book, I thought I don't understand much, and it was boring at some parts, but I'm sure it will get better once I know what's going on. ” "sashapasta" | 158 reviewers made a similar statement

“ When the plot for one of the original main characters can't even make it into a 600 page book, then it is time for the author to consider improving the story's pacing. ” "nabboud" | 168 reviewers made a similar statement

“ Path of Daggers is the worst book of the series. ” Bart Thompson | 96 reviewers made a similar statement

Book #9 Winter's Heart: 26% 5 star; 74% 1-4 star. Went up a little bit. You and some of your dress-up-as-your-favorite-star wars=character-buddies probably tried to give it a boost but failed miserably. Some more excerpts from reviewers:
Quote:“ While I really wanted to get the whole series done by year's end, that just wasn't going to happen. ” Chris Gladis | 170 reviewers made a similar statement

“ The last two books were disappointing in that very little of significance happened to any one character, and Jordan seemed to be spreading himself far too thinly. ” J. Moran | 181 reviewers made a similar statement

“ While waiting for the next book, I look forward to exchanging theories with others who are reading the series. ” M. Corbin | 123 reviewers made a similar statement
(Afterthought: M. Corbin was probably dying to ask, "How many of you think we wasted our money; no, seriously, I want to know?")S17

I could go on with this but why? S28

It's like I said earlier, "soap opera". But hey whatever you are in to. Now go dry your nails and read another Harlequin Romance novel.


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#40
I don't care about percentages of morons who like to pretend they have anything effective to say.

Shadow Rising is where shit goes down and is by far my favorite book of the series. I enjoy the world Jordan created and I like the characters so I'd be happy with 20-30 books of nothing but them sitting around a campfire talking about their morning bowel movements.

Anyways. Start a WoT thread to continue this conversation.
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