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Where was the Rapture?
04-12-2012, 05:32 AM
Post: #181
RE: Where was the Rapture?
Epicurus indeed, Karl Marx wrote his doctoral thesis on him and Democritus. The man who came up with the idea of an infinite and eternal universe, and that everything is made of atoms. Stood for peace and freedom from fear. Did you know, Ron, there is no God without fear?

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04-12-2012, 06:16 PM
Post: #182
RE: Where was the Rapture?
Q--I know that there is no courage without fear.

As for God and fear: "Perfect love casts out fear." (1 John 4:18; NKJV)

"Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him." (1 John 4:7-9).
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05-02-2012, 11:39 AM
Post: #183
RE: Where was the Rapture?
Ron,

There are actually huge theological differences between Catholics and Orthodox.

Orthodox largely are universalists, Catholics traditional.
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12-19-2012, 06:39 PM
Post: #184
RE: Where was the Rapture?
BEIJING (AP) Wrote:Chinese police have detained more than 500 people from a fringe Christian group for spreading rumors about the world's impending end, state media reported Tuesday.
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They also believe about the end of the Maya Calendar.
What the hell have the Chinese to do with the Mayans?

Prediction for Year 2012 Apocalypse are much more widespread, worldwide than for year 2011.

I think years 2013 and up until 2020 will be poor years for end-of-the-worlds because there is no 13th, 14th, 15th etc months.

Some already predict the right Doomsday date will be 20 02 2020.
(didn't work in 2002 so must be 2020... or 2200?)
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12-20-2012, 07:01 PM
Post: #185
RE: Where was the Rapture?
Global doomsday hot spots
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VANESSA GERA | Associated Press Wrote:MEXICO

About 1,000 self-described shamans, seers, stargazers, crystal enthusiasts, yogis, sufis and swamis are gathering in a convention center in the city of Merida on the Yucatan peninsula about an hour and a half from the Mayan ruins at Chichen Itza, convinced that it was a good start to the coming "New Era" supposed to begin around 5:00 a.m. local time Friday.

FRANCE

According to one rumor, a rocky mountain in the French Pyrenees will be the sole place on earth to escape destruction. A giant UFO and aliens are said to be waiting under the mountain, ready to burst through and spirit those nearby to safety.

RUSSIA

For $1,500, a museum is offering salvation from the world's end in former Soviet dictator Josef Stalin's underground bunker in central Moscow — with a 50 percent refund if nothing happens.

The bunker, located 65 meters (210 feet) below ground, was designed to withstand a nuclear attack. Now home to a small museum, it has an independent electricity supply, water and food — but no more room, because the museum has already sold out all 1,000 tickets.

BRITAIN

Hundreds of people have already converged on Stonehenge for an "End of the World" party
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12-20-2012, 07:13 PM
Post: #186
RE: Where was the Rapture?
None here in the USA? Surely there's a wing ding out in California somewhere?
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12-20-2012, 08:20 PM
Post: #187
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Man, I should find an end of the world party somewhere. There is going to be so much sex going on and all inhibitions thrown to the wind with alcohol, it'll be super easy to get in a girl's pants.
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12-21-2012, 10:29 AM
Post: #188
RE: Where was the Rapture?
Tait,

When I was in 8th grade, we had a teacher assign us to read "On The Beach".

It was an anti nuclear pr piece. Part of it's scenario was Australians had survived a nuke throw down between us and the Russki, but, only for a while, so they were on their last days.

Turns out it wasn't so much in the text, but, the back of the book(no doubt to sell copies!!) suggested folks might want to have a lot of sex on the beaches in those days!
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12-21-2012, 11:28 AM
Post: #189
RE: Where was the Rapture?
(12-21-2012 10:29 AM)Palladin Wrote:  Tait,

When I was in 8th grade, we had a teacher assign us to read "On The Beach".

It was an anti nuclear pr piece. Part of it's scenario was Australians had survived a nuke throw down between us and the Russki, but, only for a while, so they were on their last days.

Turns out it wasn't so much in the text, but, the back of the book(no doubt to sell copies!!) suggested folks might want to have a lot of sex on the beaches in those days!

Interesting you should mention "On The Beach". It was practically brand new when my eight grade English teacher took the time and read it during our classes(1958). I suppose she was really into the peace movement, but being employed by the US Army, and teaching at Fort Richardson, Alaska, this was probably her way of making her point and not losing her job.

So, I never had to read the book, and didn't take the time to ever watch the movie, it was too depressing for me. And now, later on as my knowledge base has improved, I know a world wide nuclear war would never be able to totally eradicate the human species. We are just too adaptive(non-specialized), and a certain number of us would have enough resistance to radiation. And too, all that radiation would deteriorate so quickly that many places would definitely be livable.

So, I just discount it as just one more attempt to make us appear to be forever hellbent on destroying ourselves, come what may.

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12-21-2012, 01:23 PM
Post: #190
RE: Where was the Rapture?
It wasn't something I ever worried about as an adult because I really think God rules and it isn't His plan for the earth and it's inhabitants to all perish together like this, but, if I were an atheist back then, especially with Stalin and Khruschev, I'd have worried like crap.

I can still recall eating dinner one evening around 1963 when the sirens went off in OR, the warning sirens. My dad looked up, dropped his fork, immediately called work( he worked at Y-12). It was a false alarm, but, he was petrified.

The atom bomb throw down scenario was palpable when we were young. Remember our little "get under your desk and cover your head" drills?
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12-21-2012, 02:24 PM
Post: #191
RE: Where was the Rapture?
(12-21-2012 01:23 PM)Palladin Wrote:  It wasn't something I ever worried about as an adult because I really think God rules and it isn't His plan for the earth and it's inhabitants to all perish together like this, but, if I were an atheist back then, especially with Stalin and Khruschev, I'd have worried like crap.

I can still recall eating dinner one evening around 1963 when the sirens went off in OR, the warning sirens. My dad looked up, dropped his fork, immediately called work( he worked at Y-12). It was a false alarm, but, he was petrified.

The atom bomb throw down scenario was palpable when we were young. Remember our little "get under your desk and cover your head" drills?

Yeah, it was called "Duck and Cover". We had more than normal in Alaska, because the DEW Line there was constantly being probed by the Soviets. Also, Elmendorf AFB, and Fort Richardson were right next door to each other. We were primary targets in case of a nuclear war.

We had post/base alerts all the time, and sirens tended to go off on a regular basis. After about six months, it is so ingrained into a child that he/she is constantly expecting an attack. This was with me 24/7, and just like all this blood and gore computer first person shooter games, it tended to desensitize me.

However, when I was shipped off to military high school in 1959, in Bamberg, SC, I remember one day being sick, and lying down while the battalion was at the mess hall for lunch. Suddenly the town's siren went off, blowing like crazy. Now this was South Carolina, not Alaska, so I was really shaken up. I ran outside, running around, looking for somewhere to go, because I was convinced we were about to be in the middle of a nuclear war. I ran to the school's headquarters office and kept telling folks we needed to get into the shelters. But it was just a practice drill, and I never felt so embarrassed. But it scared me half to death, it was so real to me. People have no idea just how traumatized an impressionable child can be, when having had to live under the threat for years, as I did.

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12-21-2012, 06:16 PM
Post: #192
RE: Where was the Rapture?
I don't know why it's commonly accepted that on the ee of the end of the world, everybody will have sex, wildly and unhibitedly - all women turning nymphos all at once -?

IMO the idea of diyng in the next 24h is not realy what turns me on. And I wouldn't expect women to be red hot exited about it neither.

...I think I would spend my last hours meditating or sonmething. And trying to stay with my relative, toghether until the end.

But sex?! Geez, if you don't do it when everything is normal and ok and wait the last day of the humanity, you are a true pathetic person.

But it sells books and movies.
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12-21-2012, 07:42 PM
Post: #193
RE: Where was the Rapture?
No Fred, the reason why sex is always part of the wild activity when one is faced with extermination is because wild, uninhibited, sex is something that we view as uncivilized and barbaric. It is a form of inhibition we place upon ourselves. And if the world is going to end, then why not indulge our deep seated inhibitions, right?

Now do you understand?

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12-21-2012, 07:48 PM
Post: #194
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No.
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12-21-2012, 07:53 PM
Post: #195
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12-24-2012, 09:14 PM
Post: #196
RE: Where was the Rapture?
John,

In OR we had these frequently.

Here's another thing back then, we were given unmarked toothpaste tubes and then our dental records were compared with the brand we had even though we didn't know which it was.

We did that at least one year in grammar school. Probably a federal sponsored thing in places like OR I'm guessing. For all I know it was fricking radioactive crap tested on us honestly. They did some evil stuff in the cold war era.
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12-25-2012, 04:15 PM
Post: #197
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(12-24-2012 09:14 PM)Palladin Wrote:  For all I know it was fricking radioactive crap tested on us honestly. They did some evil stuff in the cold war era.

I know for an absolute fact that I was in the direct path of one of the nuke plumes they sent down into North Central Arizona from Nevada (July 1962) ... the status is called 'downwinders'. I would consider it more ignorantly misguided than 'evil'. There are lots of people in this country that have been exposed to the rough equivalent of a (mild) nuclear war ... and most of them aren't even aware of it. If this occurred in this day and age ... can you imagine the mass hysteria, panic and unrest? Back then it was just another day ...

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12-26-2012, 08:34 PM
Post: #198
RE: Where was the Rapture?
(12-25-2012 04:15 PM)mr_yak Wrote:  
(12-24-2012 09:14 PM)Palladin Wrote:  For all I know it was fricking radioactive crap tested on us honestly. They did some evil stuff in the cold war era.

I know for an absolute fact that I was in the direct path of one of the nuke plumes they sent down into North Central Arizona from Nevada (July 1962) ... the status is called 'downwinders'. I would consider it more ignorantly misguided than 'evil'. There are lots of people in this country that have been exposed to the rough equivalent of a (mild) nuclear war ... and most of them aren't even aware of it. If this occurred in this day and age ... can you imagine the mass hysteria, panic and unrest? Back then it was just another day ...

That just lends further credence to my contention that humans are quite adaptable, even with radioactivity. Some may not make it, but most do, and the genus homo is ultimately better off as a result. S5

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12-26-2012, 09:46 PM
Post: #199
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(12-26-2012 08:34 PM)John L Wrote:  That just lends further credence to my contention that humans are quite adaptable, even with radioactivity. Some may not make it, but most do, and the genus homo is ultimately better off as a result. S5

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12-26-2012, 10:39 PM
Post: #200
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I don't know if you guys attend your High School reunions, but if you do you might be familiar with the "wall of death". Usually a poster or memorial to the ones that have passed. I don't have stats but the rate of cancer fatalities from my graduating class seems astronomical ... way more than I would have figured. The RECA legislation was based on actual trends. Background radiation plays a 'normal' role in natural selection ... but nuclear fallout? ... it's just a bunch of highly concentrated tragedy. If your point is that humanity will generally find a way out of even the deepest sh*t ... sure ... but if you're calling that crap they dumped on us beneficial? Gotta call BS on that one.

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