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Inbreeding?
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04-13-2011, 12:23 PM
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Inbreeding?
....and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.... |
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04-13-2011, 12:23 PM
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Inbreeding?
....and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.... |
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04-13-2011, 12:43 PM
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That is a lot of first cousin marriages. It isn't unheard of elsewhere,Jerry Lee Lewis married his first cousin in the late 1950s.
Is there definitive proof that this does cause genetic problems? Does the Muslim world suffer way more retardation,physical deformities? |
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04-13-2011, 12:43 PM
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That is a lot of first cousin marriages. It isn't unheard of elsewhere,Jerry Lee Lewis married his first cousin in the late 1950s.
Is there definitive proof that this does cause genetic problems? Does the Muslim world suffer way more retardation,physical deformities? |
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04-13-2011, 12:55 PM
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The main problem is the fact that Muslims have been doing it consistently for 1500 years, that's approximately 75 generations opposed to 1 or 2 amongst westerners.
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04-13-2011, 12:55 PM
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The main problem is the fact that Muslims have been doing it consistently for 1500 years, that's approximately 75 generations opposed to 1 or 2 amongst westerners.
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04-13-2011, 12:58 PM
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Bicycle,
I don't know about your math calculation here. How common were cousin marriages in the west before say 1900?? Maybe not as rare as we would like to think honestly. I have no idea. Unless the Muslim regions show a clear ratio of increased retarded and physical deformity live births,I'll have to write her theory off. |
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04-13-2011, 12:58 PM
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Bicycle,
I don't know about your math calculation here. How common were cousin marriages in the west before say 1900?? Maybe not as rare as we would like to think honestly. I have no idea. Unless the Muslim regions show a clear ratio of increased retarded and physical deformity live births,I'll have to write her theory off. |
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04-13-2011, 01:34 PM
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I have an extensive family tree dating back to the 1470's on my mother's side and it only has one cousin to cousin marriage. On my father's side there were instances of McDonald/McDonald marriages, but they were unrelated or most likely separated by several generations.
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04-13-2011, 01:34 PM
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I have an extensive family tree dating back to the 1470's on my mother's side and it only has one cousin to cousin marriage. On my father's side there were instances of McDonald/McDonald marriages, but they were unrelated or most likely separated by several generations.
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04-13-2011, 01:38 PM
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In Eastern Turkey marriage between cousins among Kurds living there is a common occurence.
According to scientists if cousins do not have defective genes, these marriages might not cause problems in their offsprings. However, if there are some common defective genes in the cousins, offsprings could have devastating defects. Here is an image of Ulas sisters and brother, offsprings from a marriage between cousins, they can walk only on all fours.
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04-13-2011, 01:38 PM
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In Eastern Turkey marriage between cousins among Kurds living there is a common occurence.
According to scientists if cousins do not have defective genes, these marriages might not cause problems in their offsprings. However, if there are some common defective genes in the cousins, offsprings could have devastating defects. Here is an image of Ulas sisters and brother, offsprings from a marriage between cousins, they can walk only on all fours.
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04-13-2011, 02:17 PM
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Re: Inbreeding?
mv Wrote:I cannot decide which area John's favorite topic belongs to. Let's be gracious and put this in "Science", for what it's worth. As for the validity of 'inbreeding' there has to be something to it. But there is always an escape valve, such as what Kamil has done. He got the hell out of the problem area, leaving an ever increasing pool of low intellect. I wonder if Kamil is married to someone outside his ethnicity? Are you Kamil? By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest. - Confucius
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04-13-2011, 02:17 PM
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Re: Inbreeding?
mv Wrote:I cannot decide which area John's favorite topic belongs to. Let's be gracious and put this in "Science", for what it's worth. As for the validity of 'inbreeding' there has to be something to it. But there is always an escape valve, such as what Kamil has done. He got the hell out of the problem area, leaving an ever increasing pool of low intellect. I wonder if Kamil is married to someone outside his ethnicity? Are you Kamil? By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest. - Confucius
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04-13-2011, 02:19 PM
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That's a sad sight right there for those folks. That ought to cause an entire culture to re-examine their habits.
I just wonder,is atrophy part of human DNA? In other words,is it more or less likely that we will have this type of offspring regardless of incest over time? I tend to think atrophy is part of DNA since our bodies obviously deteriorate over time. Why wouldn't human DNA? |
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04-13-2011, 02:19 PM
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That's a sad sight right there for those folks. That ought to cause an entire culture to re-examine their habits.
I just wonder,is atrophy part of human DNA? In other words,is it more or less likely that we will have this type of offspring regardless of incest over time? I tend to think atrophy is part of DNA since our bodies obviously deteriorate over time. Why wouldn't human DNA? |
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04-13-2011, 03:31 PM
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Kamil Wrote:In Eastern Turkey marriage between cousins among Kurds living there is a common occurence. There are thousands and thousands of throwbacks, which can result through endogamy. But there are also just as many good side effects. Ashkenazis are a great example. They have the highest IQ in the world, of any group of humans. But common sense? That's a different story. One other side effect of all this endogamy is the trait of 'red headedness'. If you see someone who is red headed, the odds are he/she has Ashkenazi genes. That red headed buxomy babe, Liz Claiman, is the perfect example. After my divorce, I dated a red headed Jewess. Cynthia was built just like Liz. What a pair! I've come to believe that red headedness also indicates big boobs too. ![]() Scoliosis is also unusually high among Jews. Liz above has it, and I too have it. The point is that among any endogamous group, genetic traits tend to develop unique characteristics. And that alone is a good case for Exogamy. By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest. - Confucius
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04-13-2011, 03:31 PM
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Kamil Wrote:In Eastern Turkey marriage between cousins among Kurds living there is a common occurence. There are thousands and thousands of throwbacks, which can result through endogamy. But there are also just as many good side effects. Ashkenazis are a great example. They have the highest IQ in the world, of any group of humans. But common sense? That's a different story. One other side effect of all this endogamy is the trait of 'red headedness'. If you see someone who is red headed, the odds are he/she has Ashkenazi genes. That red headed buxomy babe, Liz Claiman, is the perfect example. After my divorce, I dated a red headed Jewess. Cynthia was built just like Liz. What a pair! I've come to believe that red headedness also indicates big boobs too. ![]() Scoliosis is also unusually high among Jews. Liz above has it, and I too have it. The point is that among any endogamous group, genetic traits tend to develop unique characteristics. And that alone is a good case for Exogamy. By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest. - Confucius
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04-13-2011, 05:03 PM
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How did you get into the Army with it?
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04-13-2011, 05:03 PM
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How did you get into the Army with it?
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